Lease Car - BCA refused to take it

Lease Car - BCA refused to take it

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GeniusOfLove

1,385 posts

13 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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For future references tyres should be considered to have a variable length service interval based on mileage AND condition, rather than a straight mileage based replacement, the condition to be ascertained with ones eyes and if necessary hands.

I think this is covered in an appropriate level of detail on Page 2 of the "Ladybird Book of Car Ownership", ISBN 0721401279, after the foreward on Page 1 about car ownership not perhaps being for everyone.

Seventyseven7

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874 posts

70 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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GeniusOfLove said:
For future references tyres should be considered to have a variable length service interval based on mileage AND condition, rather than a straight mileage based replacement, the condition to be ascertained with ones eyes and if necessary hands.

I think this is covered in an appropriate level of detail on Page 2 of the "Ladybird Book of Car Ownership", ISBN 0721401279, after the foreward on Page 1 about car ownership not perhaps being for everyone.
biglaughbiglaughbiglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

Mark V GTD

2,233 posts

125 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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I have always had a front to back swap done on my lease cars (£25.00) around half way through the lease and never had to buy a replacement tyre.

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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GeniusOfLove said:
For future references tyres should be considered to have a variable length service interval based on mileage AND condition, rather than a straight mileage based replacement, the condition to be ascertained with ones eyes and if necessary hands.

I think this is covered in an appropriate level of detail on Page 2 of the "Ladybird Book of Car Ownership", ISBN 0721401279, after the foreward on Page 1 about car ownership not perhaps being for everyone.
Mileage is irrelevant, and its completely about condition and age.

The same tyre could last 30 miles or 30k miles depending on use, and a tyre with legal tread depth, but which is 7 years old should be replaced.

FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Car has now been collected, for reference they charge £170 per tyre. Not bad at all.

Also I was off on the milage (we have a few cars and I just remembered incorrectly). Tyres should have been fine biglaugh

From their report:

Engine : 2.0 Fuel : Petrol
Colour : BLACK Odometer: 19556

Edited by Seventyseven7 on Thursday 14th September 11:22
Did you establish that the tyres were illegal, or did you just bend over and apply lube?

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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FWIW said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Car has now been collected, for reference they charge £170 per tyre. Not bad at all.

Also I was off on the milage (we have a few cars and I just remembered incorrectly). Tyres should have been fine biglaugh

From their report:

Engine : 2.0 Fuel : Petrol
Colour : BLACK Odometer: 19556

Edited by Seventyseven7 on Thursday 14th September 11:22
Did you establish that the tyres were illegal, or did you just bend over and apply lube?
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.

Sheepshanks

32,804 posts

120 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.
Our finance people at work were like this - they thought end-of-lease charges of around £1000 were part of the deal, so guess how much the charge was when any car went back! If we kicked off about it they'd just shrug and say they'd already paid it, and we didn;t have to pay it personally, so "why worry?".

FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.
What do you mean, “just paid him” ? Is “him” VWFS?

If you’re this blazé, why even start the thread. I’m flummoxed.

Cockaigne

2,797 posts

20 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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170 is cheap lol


Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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FWIW said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.
What do you mean, “just paid him” ? Is “him” VWFS?

If you’re this blazé, why even start the thread. I’m flummoxed.
Is anyone convinced by anything SS7 says?

He's been called out with things he's said in other threads and is contesting what he said.

I have never heard of bills presented at the point of collecting the car, but it's only a grand.


FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Driver101 said:
Is anyone convinced by anything SS7 says?
Not me!

Wacky Racer

38,175 posts

248 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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mat205125 said:
Wacky Racer said:
I've just returned a Mazda to Santander (BCA) it had to have AT LEAST two months MOT left
Is that stipulation somewhere in black & white in the Ts & Cs of the agreement taken out at the start of the lease between the customer and the vendor?
Yes. Nothing to do with BCA.

There in the terms in Black and white. It sailed through the MOT anyway so no problem.

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Driver101 said:
FWIW said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.
What do you mean, “just paid him” ? Is “him” VWFS?

If you’re this blazé, why even start the thread. I’m flummoxed.
Is anyone convinced by anything SS7 says?

He's been called out with things he's said in other threads and is contesting what he said.

I have never heard of bills presented at the point of collecting the car, but it's only a grand.
Why would I lie? biggrin If that's something you do on the internet that's fine, but please don't imply I do, I'm not that sad.
No idea I have been 'called out', all very odd.

The guy did the inspection, asked me to sign his iPad and said I would be charged £1,200 odd. Signed it and he went on his way and I was charged.

Instantly got the email receipt below. So yes, you do get presented the bill at point of collecting the car.



Edited by Seventyseven7 on Saturday 16th September 13:46


Edited by Seventyseven7 on Saturday 16th September 13:47

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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FWIW said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Just paid him, couldn't even be bothered to check, thought it was cheap. Think I paid little over a grand all told on the return.
What do you mean, “just paid him” ? Is “him” VWFS?

If you’re this blazé, why even start the thread. I’m flummoxed.
Apologies, by 'him' I mean the inspector from BCA who came followed by a truck to collect the car.

I was originally asking for advice on whether I should pay for a loader to come collect the car, or should I replace the tyres and get the car collected by a driver. All whilst getting abuse for asking a question, BCA said the loader was free, so I just went ahead and did that.



Edited by Seventyseven7 on Saturday 16th September 13:51

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Cockaigne said:
170 is cheap lol
The cheapest I could see tyres to be changed on my drive for the same speed rating which it needed to be, was around £190 a tyre. Add to that my time to arrange and be available etc, I think £170 is very cheap for what it was. I was expecting they would charge higher £200 per tyre.

Mark V GTD

2,233 posts

125 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Indeed - as I pointed out earlier VWFS rectification costs are reasonable and its generally best just suck them up so long as the inspection report is factually correct. Look at the cost of an alloy refurb - £60.00 (plus VAT)!

Edited by Mark V GTD on Saturday 16th September 14:30

Mr_J

363 posts

48 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Front tyre tread depth of 0mm.

How did you not notice that on your family wagon?!?

Sheepshanks

32,804 posts

120 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Mark V GTD said:
Indeed - as I pointed out earlier VWFS rectification costs are reasonable and its generally best just suck them up so long as the inspection report is factually correct. Look at the cost of an alloy refurb - £60.00 (plus VAT)!
They’re not ‘normal’ costs because they don’t repair them - the charges are really dilapidation charges and reflect how much the car will get knocked down by at auction.

Dealer who buys it will fit LingLongs for resale, half the price of premium tyres.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Saturday 16th September 17:02

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Mr_J said:
Front tyre tread depth of 0mm.

How did you not notice that on your family wagon?!?
It’s not a family wagon, it’s a pool car used by various people, probably why no one really took responsibly for it and checked. My wife and I both have our own cars.

Again as mentioned several times in this thread, lesson learned.

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

874 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Mark V GTD said:
Indeed - as I pointed out earlier VWFS rectification costs are reasonable and its generally best just suck them up so long as the inspection report is factually correct. Look at the cost of an alloy refurb - £60.00 (plus VAT)!

Edited by Mark V GTD on Saturday 16th September 14:30
Yes, I think all the prices are fair and worth just leaving for them to sort. There are a couple of scratches that I think they didn’t need to charge for, but didn’t want to waste my time arguing over it.