Audi tt as second car

[anonymous-user]

MX-5 or MR2 Mk3 if you can't have a 3.0 Z4. The TT is just a Golf in a frock, they aren't particularly special to drive.
Alternatively just wait until your NCD goes up, insurance is cheaper and you can afford something faster like an E90 330i or 335i coupe.

[Truckosaurus]

A TT makes for a good only car - practical, common parts, somewhat reliable, etc.

Not sure it is a good 2nd car - too practical, common, soulless, etc.

I'd much rather a Z4, MX5, SLK or other mass produced 'sports car'.

[Silvanus]

Keelanv said:

I absolutely love the look of the newer mx5 however the tt has the 2 extra seats and seems like it has a lot of boot space. Whilst being quick and reliable. I know it’s the tatty end of the market but at 5k there’s over 200 up for sale which look to be good just high miles in general. Would you still buy one considering the low price which I guess is potentially dodgy

Difficult to say, you might find one of the cheaper high mileage cars could be a good buy, but it's down to the lottery that is cheap second hand cars.

Personally if I was in the market for a 2+2 coupe, I wouldn't be choosing a TT, but that's just me.

If you really fancy a TT buy the very best you can and enjoy, they are genuinely decent cars.

[Earthdweller]

A few years ago I was looking at various options for a weekend car

I looked at quite a few Mk1 TT’s invariably they were crap, poor condition, ropey histories etc

Ended up buying a Z4 where the story couldn’t have been more different as pretty much every one I looked at had been looked after and had comprehensive histories

Maybe it’s just the owner demographics but TT’s came across as abused and neglected in comparison to other makes/models I considered not just the Z4

[SAS Tom]

Having an MX5 and a MK1 TT I’d say it depends on what you’re after. The MX5 is great fun on the right day, usually the sun is out and you have the roof down. The rest of the time it’s pretty miserable. Small, not much room to carry anything, only 2 seats etc. I wouldn’t want one as an only car. Especially as it will dissolve if you use it daily.

The TT isn’t an out and out sports car but that’s not always what people want. The TT does normal car stuff much better, it’s comfortable, has a reasonable amount of space, doesn’t leak, can carry another person if really necessary. As standard they can be a bit understeery but there’s plenty of options to tune that out.

If it’s got twice the power of your current car, I’m sure you’ll find it fast enough.

[Keelanv]

SAS Tom said:

Having an MX5 and a MK1 TT I’d say it depends on what you’re after. The MX5 is great fun on the right day, usually the sun is out and you have the roof down. The rest of the time it’s pretty miserable. Small, not much room to carry anything, only 2 seats etc. I wouldn’t want one as an only car. Especially as it will dissolve if you use it daily.

The TT isn’t an out and out sports car but that’s not always what people want. The TT does normal car stuff much better, it’s comfortable, has a reasonable amount of space, doesn’t leak, can carry another person if really necessary. As standard they can be a bit understeery but there’s plenty of options to tune that out.

If it’s got twice the power of your current car, I’m sure you’ll find it fast enough.

Thank you for the help, I think a lot of people on here got the idea that I was looking for an exotic sports car with an insane amount of power. I’m looking for something which would feel like a big step up from a mini one in terms of power and aesthetics. The mx5 is a cool car but like you said it’s quite small and not ideal everyday. I’m also only 18 and have plenty of time to upgrade to other cars in the future

[anonymous-user]

Keelanv said:

Thank you for the help, I think a lot of people on here got the idea that I was looking for an exotic sports car with an insane amount of power.

I don't think anybody is saying that. People are just saying there are comparable cars which will be more interesting to drive than the TT and more likely to be in better nick as Audis seem to attract neglectful/abusive owners.

Keelanv said:

I’m looking for something which would feel like a big step up from a mini one in terms of power and aesthetics.

Aesthetics is subjective, but everything myself & others have suggested would be a great step up in terms of power while within your budget and not too mental on the tax & insurance front for an 18 year old.

Judging by your responses you've come here with your heart set on the TT already- just buy one then if you won't take others' advice on board.

[2Btoo]

TheOctaneAddict said:

TT ain't a sportscar, its a golf in a nice body, see also VW Scirocco.

Get an MX5, it should be cheap to buy, insure and run.

As TOA said - the TT isn't a sportscar.

If you are lucky enough to be buying a second car then you have the luxury of choosing something that's properly enjoyable to drive. The TT has never been this, and is too dynamically compromised to compete in the same ranks as something that's RWD with a purpose-built chassis. (Does anyone have the link to the PH article which described the TT as being 'like an SUV to drive, and not a very good one'?) They combine all the compromises of a two seater (two seats, limited interior space) with all the compromises of a front-engined FWD hatchback (poor chassis, front-bias weight distribution, inert steering); they are the worst of all worlds.

You sound young but I'd start by looking at MX5's or early 986 Boxsters. There is a thread on here about 'poverty pork' where sub-£5k 986's come up frequently. Here's a link: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Don't worry about performance. If you just want to go fast then buy a 'plane ticket.

[Keelanv]

said:

Mate you recommended that I wait and buy a bmw if I can’t buy a 3L bmw rn. Can you name me an 18 year old who can afford to insure a 3 litre engine without using daddy’s money. Now the other 2 cars you recommended was the mr2 and the mx5 which is almost fair enough considering I have said I was looking at the mx5 but the tt has 2 extra seats and a more reliable engine. I’m open to suggestions but if you’re just going to tell me wait and buy a bmw I’d rather wipe my arse with the money.

[Silvanus]

2Btoo said:

TheOctaneAddict said:

TT ain't a sportscar, its a golf in a nice body, see also VW Scirocco.

Get an MX5, it should be cheap to buy, insure and run.

As TOA said - the TT isn't a sportscar.

If you are lucky enough to be buying a second car then you have the luxury of choosing something that's properly enjoyable to drive. The TT has never been this, and is too dynamically compromised to compete in the same ranks as something that's RWD with a purpose-built chassis. (Does anyone have the link to the PH article which described the TT as being 'like an SUV to drive, and not a very good one'?) They combine all the compromises of a two seater (two seats, limited interior space) with all the compromises of a front-engined FWD hatchback (poor chassis, front-bias weight distribution, inert steering); they are the worst of all worlds.

You sound young but I'd start by looking at MX5's or early 986 Boxsters. There is a thread on here about 'poverty pork' where sub-£5k 986's come up frequently. Here's a link: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Don't worry about performance. If you just want to go fast then buy a 'plane ticket.

I think it's his second car (number two he will have owned), not a second car to go along with his daily car

[ChrisH72]

I don't think OP means second car as in running 2 cars. Sounds like mini was first car and he's looking to move on to second car.

So it's your only car right? Just to clarify.

I really like the TT as a daily do it all and the mk3 s line quattro is still on my lost of possibilities. Plenty say it's a Golf in a frock but then the Golf is a very good car. If you don't need Golf like practicality and like the sleeker coupe looks then I can't see why not.

[SAS Tom]

I think some have only read part of the op’s post.

What 18 year old is going to be able to insure a 3 litre BMW or Porsche?

Also it’s his second ever car, not a second car. He will only have this to drive.

There’s also the matter of people thinking their opinion is the correct one. I’ve recently driven a 986 Boxster S and didn’t find it anything special at all. Certainly preferred the TT over it and the throw on the gear lever was like something out of a truck. I’m sure there’s plenty of people that disagree with me.

I wouldn’t have an MX5 as a daily driver either. It’s just annoying for the majority of the time.

[anonymous-user]

Keelanv said:

Mate you recommended that I wait and buy a bmw if I can’t buy a 3L bmw rn. Can you name me an 18 year old who can afford to insure a 3 litre engine without using daddy’s money.

Assuming you're replying to me? Yes I suggested waiting until your insurance situation is more viable, that's what I did- I ran a Fiat Punto and then an Aygo until I was 22 and then bought my first 3.0 Z4 which I kept for a few years until I found my current one (better spec). It's daft trying to shop for interesting and moderately quick cars in this country as a young person with our awful insurance system, and it's worse now than when I was 18.
The daddy's money comment is ironic given nobody I knew when I was 18 had £5k to spend on flash wheels

Keelanv said:

Now the other 2 cars you recommended was the mr2 and the mx5 which is almost fair enough considering I have said I was looking at the mx5 but the tt has 2 extra seats and a more reliable engine.

Who told you they were more reliable than the Japanese? A used car salesman with some ratty TTs to offload like someone else suggested?

Keelanv said:

I’m open to suggestions but if you’re just going to tell me wait and buy a bmw I’d rather wipe my arse with the money.

Clearly not open to suggestions given your attitude in your replies! If the choice is a slothy understeery Audi TT or waiting until better 2+2 coupes are affordable, waiting is the thinking man's choice.

[Keelanv]

SAS Tom said:

I think some have only read part of the op’s post.

What 18 year old is going to be able to insure a 3 litre BMW or Porsche?

Also it’s his second ever car, not a second car. He will only have this to drive.

There’s also the matter of people thinking their opinion is the correct one. I’ve recently driven a 986 Boxster S and didn’t find it anything special at all. Certainly preferred the TT over it and the throw on the gear lever was like something out of a truck. I’m sure there’s plenty of people that disagree with me.

I wouldn’t have an MX5 as a daily driver either. It’s just annoying for the majority of the time.

Thank you I think you got a much better idea of the picture. A lot of people just telling me to buy these things with big engines or convertibles with no room.

[Keelanv]

ChrisH72 said:

I don't think OP means second car as in running 2 cars. Sounds like mini was first car and he's looking to move on to second car.

So it's your only car right? Just to clarify.

I really like the TT as a daily do it all and the mk3 s line quattro is still on my lost of possibilities. Plenty say it's a Golf in a frock but then the Golf is a very good car. If you don't need Golf like practicality and like the sleeker coupe looks then I can't see why not.

Yes thank you, it is my second car as in im selling my first car and buying this. So I will still only own 1 car. As well as you said a golf engine is one of the most reliable out there? I don’t understand why people are saying that as a bad thing

[Dingu]

Pickle_Party_247 said:

awful insurance system

I don’t wanna subsidise your crap driving thanks.

[Keelanv]

Pickle_Party_247 said:

Keelanv said:

Mate you recommended that I wait and buy a bmw if I can’t buy a 3L bmw rn. Can you name me an 18 year old who can afford to insure a 3 litre engine without using daddy’s money.

Assuming you're replying to me? Yes I suggested waiting until your insurance situation is more viable, that's what I did- I ran a Fiat Punto and then an Aygo until I was 22 and then bought my first 3.0 Z4 which I kept for a few years until I found my current one (better spec). It's daft trying to shop for interesting and moderately quick cars in this country as a young person with our awful insurance system, and it's worse now than when I was 18.
The daddy's money comment is ironic given nobody I knew when I was 18 had £5k to spend on flash wheels

Keelanv said:

Now the other 2 cars you recommended was the mr2 and the mx5 which is almost fair enough considering I have said I was looking at the mx5 but the tt has 2 extra seats and a more reliable engine.

Who told you they were more reliable than the Japanese? A used car salesman with some ratty TTs to offload like someone else suggested?

Keelanv said:

I’m open to suggestions but if you’re just going to tell me wait and buy a bmw I’d rather wipe my arse with the money.

Clearly not open to suggestions given your attitude in your replies! If the choice is a slothy understeery Audi TT or waiting until better 2+2 coupes are affordable, waiting is the thinking man's choice.

I’m assuming you didn’t work when you were 18 then. I’ve been working since I was 15 on about 10 quid an hour 10 hours a week doing full time during summer. The “flashy wheels” is a reflection of what I’ve done it’s an achievement. Considering it’s an achievement I don’t fancy waiting another 4 years to buy a z4. Furthermore I’m not going to argue about the reliability between Japanese and Germans. They’re both great, but a tt has 2 extra seats and a hell of a lot more space. I’m open to suggestions but realistic ones. If I wanted to wait 4 years I would and then I would post on here but I didn’t so I’m not.

[Fermit]

ChrisH72 said:

Plenty say it's a Golf in a frock

Yeah, Jeromy Clarkson most notably. It's a boring lazy rhetoric.

[anonymous-user]

Dingu said:

I don’t wanna subsidise your crap driving thanks.

Eh? you missing an S on the end of your username? What isn't objectively crap about an insurance system charging new drivers more than the price of the car for the privilege of driving a 1.2 Corsa?

[Keelanv]

Fermit said:

ChrisH72 said:

Plenty say it's a Golf in a frock

Yeah, Jeromy Clarkson most notably. It's a boring lazy rhetoric.

He also said a 911 is a sports car with the engine in the wrong side of the car
So don’t get one right?