powerful naturally aspirated v8 for £30k max
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Turbinox said:
Ken_Code said:
Turbinox said:
I have already tried the 4.2 Audi, it revs up!!!. but, I did not feel any type of acceleration (strong push in the seat), surely there is little torque for the weight
0-60 in 4.5. What on Earth are you used to that that doesn’t feel reasonably brisk?Ken_Code said:
Turbinox said:
R33 rb26 single turbo
Are you sure that that was faster than the RS4 0-60?otherwise why do people mention the c63 feel more fast and strong than the rs4 or m3? the numbers 0-60 are close
Ken_Code said:
Turbinox said:
405WHP
So no faster then.Turbinox said:
don't think so, but the feeling has nothing to do between my car and the RS4. not everything comes from 0-60.
otherwise why do people mention the c63 feel more fast and strong than the rs4 or m3? the numbers 0-60 are close
The feeling of acceleration does. That’s literally what is pushing you in the back.otherwise why do people mention the c63 feel more fast and strong than the rs4 or m3? the numbers 0-60 are close
I had an RS4, and a C63. Perhaps what you are trying to describe is that the Mercedes pulls better from lower revs, so if you are in the “wrong” gear then the Mercedes can feel faster.
My current “sensible” car is a 650bhp Range Rover Sport. 0-60 in just under 4 seconds, and feels it.
it's true and false, you feel the rate of change of acceleration (jerk) a ferrari f40 does a 0-60 in 4.5s many cars are faster murcielago, mclaren f1 etc but the feeling of acceleration of the f40 outperforms this car can import the numbers. all this due to the power delivered. I don't drive a C63 but according to people they push you back in the seat more than the RS4 absolutely. low revs, mid revs, high revs. just the much superior torque.
humans are naturally worse at feeling constant acceleration compared to changing acceleration. the torque which increases sharply during boost creates a positive jolt, acceleration is better perceived than with a flat torque curve. this is why the laggy turbos feel very fast and offer the famous "turbo shove. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
Turbinox said:
many options were supercharged or high revs. so off topic for now
and I don't reject everything I keep:
63 amg
5.5 e500 clk 500 m273
m5 e39
quattroporte 4.7
Only one in that list I've driven is the E39 M5 and, while it's a lovely car, I don't think it meets the brief in terms of pinning you back in your seat as the power delivery is too smooth. The technical term for what you are looking for is "jerk" but Googling that just turns up a lot of people with broken cars and I don't reject everything I keep:
63 amg
5.5 e500 clk 500 m273
m5 e39
quattroporte 4.7
Chris
Turbinox said:
humans are naturally worse at feeling constant acceleration compared to changing acceleration. the torque which increases sharply during boost creates a positive jolt, acceleration is better perceived than with a flat torque curve. this is why the laggy turbos feel very fast and offer the famous "turbo shove. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
As has been mentioned it's Jerk, the rate of change of acceleration. Only one in that list I've driven is the E39 M5 and, while it's a lovely car, I don't think it meets the brief in terms of pinning you back in your seat as the power delivery is too smooth. The technical term for what you are looking for is "jerk" but Googling that just turns up a lot of people with broken cars
thanks for the information on the m5.
I would think that with all this torque despite the smooth power delivery ( no jerk) but you would be pinned in the seat back
Turbinox said:
Only one in that list I've driven is the E39 M5 and, while it's a lovely car, I don't think it meets the brief in terms of pinning you back in your seat as the power delivery is too smooth. The technical term for what you are looking for is "jerk" but Googling that just turns up a lot of people with broken cars
thanks for the information on the m5.
I would think that with all this torque despite the smooth power delivery ( no jerk) but you would be pinned in the seat back
It doesn't accelerate as fast as a V8 M3 so I don't really understand why you think it will feel faster!! thanks for the information on the m5.
I would think that with all this torque despite the smooth power delivery ( no jerk) but you would be pinned in the seat back
Turbinox said:
CG2020UK said:
Never driven one but always thought the Jaguar Xfr-s was a great looking car even if supercharged.
Evo seemed to really rate it!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403227...
great car!!! but i'm only looking for naEvo seemed to really rate it!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403227...
Looks like the MB 6.2 is going to be your best bet.
Common Porpoise said:
It doesn't accelerate as fast as a V8 M3 so I don't really understand why you think it will feel faster!!
More torque and a less peaky power delivery I would guess?Edited by SWoll on Friday 26th April 15:10
cerb4.5lee said:
SWoll said:
Looks like the MB 6.2 is going to be your best bet.
That would be the direction that I'd go in if I was the OP as well. SWoll said:
cerb4.5lee said:
SWoll said:
Looks like the MB 6.2 is going to be your best bet.
That would be the direction that I'd go in if I was the OP as well. couldn't test a 63 AMG near me, I went to see a 2011 Camaro SS.
6.2 engine. (LS) there was a magnaflow exhaust + stage 1 remap.
The owner also removed the cylinder deactivation system. I don't know how this compares to a (stock) C63, but the weight and power are close. I didn't really like it, there was torque, a good sound but the power delivery was just very linear and without surprises. the shove was there but not as intense and fun as I thought
6.2 engine. (LS) there was a magnaflow exhaust + stage 1 remap.
The owner also removed the cylinder deactivation system. I don't know how this compares to a (stock) C63, but the weight and power are close. I didn't really like it, there was torque, a good sound but the power delivery was just very linear and without surprises. the shove was there but not as intense and fun as I thought
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