Engine finally ready for Dyno test

Engine finally ready for Dyno test

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daddysumo

2,545 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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A but it's micro det that breaks down the oil film which then kills the ends... tongue out

sundance002

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1,304 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Im going to remain confused how aftermarket stuff can be effective but then this is way outside my field of expertise... so i'm going to concentrate my effort on various engine temps and pressures along with wideband (as sundances also does) and make the map slightly safer and thus avoid det altogether.


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Andy don't forget my ecu is not aftermarket, it can't be bought in the shops, the software was written specifically for this car.by Life and AER so apparently has a few secrets they won't provide, it's what gives them the edge in the racing car.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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these guys make some nice equipment

http://www.phormula.co.uk/

you can program it to output a voltage of say over 5 volts when it detects det - great for datalogging det on the Dyno

Adrian W

13,857 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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sundance002 said:
Andy don't forget my ecu is not aftermarket, it can't be bought in the shops, the software was written specifically for this car.by Life and AER so apparently has a few secrets they won't provide, it's what gives them the edge in the racing car.
This guy must be a brilliant salesman,

sundance002

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1,304 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Adrian W said:
This guy must be a brilliant salesman,
Adrian do yo think I am some kind of mug? I'm just kidding with you regarding mic, they have done an awesome amount of development, and just because you may not understand it, doesn't mean it's just a sales pitch,
I don't spend my money without thought or purpose, and I deaf ain't an easy touch, or gullible , what is it with you folk? It ain't a competition , I'm just trying to achieve what I want nothing more nothing less, if it doesn't come with your approval no prob, if I'm wasting my money, no prob, this is what I enjoy, so this it what I do, if you can't get the logic who cares, me, I just do what I do, if I don't understand but it works happy days. What more can I say. Each to there own.
Now for another large JD and coke.



wessexrfc

4,326 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Well said.............

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Well don't Craig ! Nice to see some new owners pushing the development of the car forward !!!

Looking forward to my passenger ride biggrin

Tux

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

240 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I think in reality we all hope it goes well and you JD and cokes are celebration drinks and not drowning your sorrows smile

TIGERSIX

969 posts

231 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Oh bit early in the day for a drink but I will indulge to celebrate as its Friday good figures Craig its reminded me to renew my AA membership.idea

sundance002

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1,304 posts

164 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I'm not really understanding the negativity here, for me this car was never reliable from day one, now I'm not saying they are all like that, but mine was, my first re build was done when I had no knowledge about these cars, it was running 550 bhp 510 ftlb, my second re build was done because the main shaft bearings failed, a not to uncommon problem it turns out, at this point I went the same route as some others and upped the power beyond 600 bhp, then the gearbox failed, 5th gear, a not to uncommon problem it turns out, seems to be a pattern appearing, so this time round I'm doing things my way,
With the changes we now have made, it can't be worse than it was before, now I know it will be reliable and in fact I have more faith now than before that for the first time I can actually put some mileage on the clock,
As so far I have managed about 3500miles in over three years, so what's to loose?

Thanks for the positive support guys, and all I can say to the doubters is watch this space.

GTO600

1,877 posts

251 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Good on you Craig & wish you all the best as like you I've had my share of problems, look forward to continued updates.

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Yes, there can be alot of negativity and smart arse comments when it's comes to doing upgrades etc. On a lighter note, good for you for.......
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=...
I'm the one with the beard, giving it the "down with da kids" hand jesture hehe

anotherdom

535 posts

168 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Good luck with the work - sounds interesting. I absolutely understand people's scepticism, and don't have the expertise to comment on det detection. I do have experience of some absolute top end signal processing in other fields. Incredulity is good - it means your competitors are so far behind you don't need to rush the job!

Juno

4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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wessexrfc said:
Yes, there can be alot of negativity and smart arse comments when it's comes to doing upgrades etc. On a lighter note, good for you for.......
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=...
I'm the one with the beard, giving it the "down with da kids" hand jesture hehe
Nooooooo Surely Not hehe

RobGTO3

23 posts

151 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Saw the black beast up on the ramps on Saturday at Bespoke and was given a brief guided tour by the legend that is Skip. He took my GTO3 to 500bhp last year and now it's time to look at keeping the old girl a bit cooler. The idea of 700 brake fills me with fear and envy in equal measure. Good luck Craig, can't wait to hear how the build turns out. I have a nasty feeling the notion of a clever programmable ECU is going to eat away at me now.....

sundance002

Original Poster:

1,304 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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GTO600 said:
Good on you Craig & wish you all the best as like you I've had my share of problems, look forward to continued updates.
Gracias omego, will continue with the updates.

sundance002

Original Poster:

1,304 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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wessexrfc said:
Yes, there can be alot of negativity and smart arse comments when it's comes to doing upgrades etc. On a lighter note, good for you for.......
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=...
I'm the one with the beard, giving it the "down with da kids" hand jesture hehe
rofl

sundance002

Original Poster:

1,304 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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RobGTO3 said:
Saw the black beast up on the ramps on Saturday at Bespoke and was given a brief guided tour by the legend that is Skip. He took my GTO3 to 500bhp last year and now it's time to look at keeping the old girl a bit cooler. The idea of 700 brake fills me with fear and envy in equal measure. Good luck Craig, can't wait to hear how the build turns out. I have a nasty feeling the notion of a clever programmable ECU is going to eat away at me now.....
What!!! skip giving my secrets away already;), Hi Rob, cool is def the way forward, have you done the tunnel mod? And some cleverly placed vents under engine compartment should help in a big way. New Ecu is a must IMO when you running non standard power, MBE is far to slow to keep up with our cars.
700 seems pretty mad cant wait to see what it feels likeyikes but it's not really about power at this point, it's more about control to help with reliability, the system they have designed and built is amazing, I'm already using it in my Caterham R600 superlight, R, only with different software inside the F88 , it's been faultless, the car hasn't missed a beat and is prob as quick as the Noble, so I know it works.
Can't wait to have a go now, if your around when I collect it, come and have a passenger ride no doubt it will scare us both silly..

R0162

2,435 posts

164 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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This all sounds very good but very expensive...
are you also doing something with the gearbox?
I was thinking about tyres and traction, I noticed matts car had 275/40, and I assume there was some well thought out logic behind it, I am wondering if on your car 295/35 would help put that power down and would increase top end making it a true 200mph car.
The power delivery does look nice an linear, but there is just so much of it...lol..I bet your ecu would accept the race logic traction control system..it may be an idea to think about..
Amazing project thread though, you will get a good reaction if posted on the US forums...

Adrian W

13,857 posts

228 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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R0162 said:
The power delivery does look nice an linear, but there is just so much of it...lol..I bet your ecu would accept the race logic traction control system..it may be an idea to think about..
Amazing project thread though, you will get a good reaction if posted on the US forums...
The traction control can be implemented in the ECU without wheel sensors if the processor is up to it, using a rise of rate of rpm algorithm, if the map has the resolution that Craig has been told it should be a piece of cake. It would also detect a slipping clutch.