Air filter position again ( sorry)!

[sjc]

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

[Blu3R]

sjc said:

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

I presume you mean for oil, do you feel you really need one? Have you ever drained it? Show us a picture.

[sjc]

Blu3R said:

sjc said:

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

I presume you mean for oil, do you feel you really need one? Have you ever drained it? Show us a picture.

It was already on the car fitted by the factory as a precaution on insistence of the original owner I believe. I've never touched it, Kerridges do all the maintenance.

[stevegto3]

Here is a pic of mine after I moved the filters. I have since changed the Oil tank, so it no longer has the red pipe venting to the filters.

If its the coolant tank you are talking about, I think you will be fine for room, although the front turbo bracket needs to be in the right place to stop the filter fouling the Clam.

Steve

[sjc]

No not the coolant tank.
I know they'll fit generally because I had it done on my 3R and still have the brackets.

[GTO600]

sjc said:

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

Like this -



If so then yes it was done by the factory, just put it back in it's normal position.
Kevin

[Juno]

Here's a nice job

[sjc]

GTO600 said:

sjc said:

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

Like this -



If so then yes it was done by the factory, just put it back in it's normal position.
Kevin

Yep, it's exactly the same as that.

[Blu3R]

Oh no, not the magic end tanks again!

[sjc]

Juno said:

Here's a nice job

Whats the theory with the shields Barry? RO162 did something similar on his.

[Juno]

Air ram, like you would on a Go Kat when you cup your hand to direct air into the carb. I gives the intake the chance to take the cool air entering rather then competing with the hotter air above the engine. Coupled with Magic end tanks its a winner

Ok we will drop the magic end tanks :getmecoat :

Edited by Juno on Wednesday 16th April 23:14

[sjc]

Come on then .. someone spill the beans on the Magic end tanks?

[Rob_W]

sjc said:

GTO600 said:

sjc said:

I've got a catch tank mounted on the bulkhead at the moment, exactly where the filter is likely to go.
Any logical places to put it other than there?

Like this -



If so then yes it was done by the factory, just put it back in it's normal position.
Kevin

Yep, it's exactly the same as that.

Mine was in that location when I bought it but then went Pro-Alloy which will only fit in the "standard" location, seems that path would makes sense for you if you are moving anyway?

[sjc]

Whats the theory of it being on the bulk head rather than standard anyway?

[Juno]

sjc said:

Come on then .. someone spill the beans on the Magic end tanks?

Nooooop

[sjc]

Juno said:

sjc said:

Come on then .. someone spill the beans on the Magic end tanks?

Nooooop

You're lucky the search facility is crap then!

[Blu3R]

sjc said:

Whats the theory of it being on the bulk head rather than standard anyway?

I really have no idea, does it still return to the sump like normal? If it does then it's a breather/separator, if the bottom hose has some sort of tap to drain it's contents then it's a catch tank. Typically if you need a catch tank it'll be fed by an elaborate separator first, then into the catch tank, then out to atmosphere (or possibly back into the inlet tract somewhere).
In the Noble setup if your engine breathes heavily (which turbo engines do anyway) then your inlet return may leave a trail of oil up the filter hose and into your front turbo. That's why some people move to the PA separator so they can vent that to atmosphere but you could always vent your standard separator to atmosphere too. If you find oil escapes from the vent then you could send it to a catch tank as a '2nd separator' and then out from there. The catch tank can then be drained at service time.

[GTO600]

Blu3R said:

sjc said:

Whats the theory of it being on the bulk head rather than standard anyway?

I really have no idea, does it still return to the sump like normal? If it does then it's a breather/separator, if the bottom hose has some sort of tap to drain it's contents then it's a catch tank. Typically if you need a catch tank it'll be fed by an elaborate separator first, then into the catch tank, then out to atmosphere (or possibly back into the inlet tract somewhere).
In the Noble setup if your engine breathes heavily (which turbo engines do anyway) then your inlet return may leave a trail of oil up the filter hose and into your front turbo. That's why some people move to the PA separator so they can vent that to atmosphere but you could always vent your standard separator to atmosphere too. If you find oil escapes from the vent then you could send it to a catch tank as a '2nd separator' and then out from there. The catch tank can then be drained at service time.

It was Noble's attempt to cure the oil seperator filling up with oil when used heavily on track & has no relevance to road use so best it's relocated to the standard position.
This was only ever a track related issue & was eventually resolved a different way. I wouldn't advise that the stardard seperator be vented to atmosphere rather than returning to the inlet unless via a purpose catch tank, you can get away with it on the Proalloy version because it has a larger capacity.

Edited by GTO600 on Thursday 17th April 10:39

[Blu3R]

Understood Kevin, thanks for that. The theory still stands about separators and catch tanks.