Just joined! Engine removed! what mods (if any)?
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Yes valve springs can be done with engine in. No they do not increase boost. But if u do later then the mod is done. Might be easier while engine is out though (but only a little).
Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
mgbond said:
Yes valve springs can be done with engine in. No they do not increase boost. But if u do later then the mod is done. Might be easier while engine is out though (but only a little).
Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
Both a complete waste of money IMHO. Valve springs can be done with the heads on so no advantage with the engine out other than space to work around. Turbos don't need servicing, ever. They need rebuilding when they wear either the bearings, oil seals or crack from incorrect usage (thrashing from cold or shutting off when too hot) - or indeed any combination of those. A quick check of play and end float along with a visual of oil travelling up the hoses is all thats necessary at Chris' current point. All stuff Skip can do with his eyes shut. Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
Chris - I also meant to say before: use the tools on here such as bookmarking subjects and the search function (when it works!). Don't be afraid to resurrect old threads if they've not fully answered exactly what you need to know as we'll all know what you've already gleamed and don't have to cover old ground. Also keeps important topics fresh for others in similar situations to you.
Blu3R said:
mgbond said:
Yes valve springs can be done with engine in. No they do not increase boost. But if u do later then the mod is done. Might be easier while engine is out though (but only a little).
Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
Both a complete waste of money IMHO. Valve springs can be done with the heads on so no advantage with the engine out other than space to work around. Turbos don't need servicing, ever. They need rebuilding when they wear either the bearings, oil seals or crack from incorrect usage (thrashing from cold or shutting off when too hot) - or indeed any combination of those. A quick check of play and end float along with a visual of oil travelling up the hoses is all thats necessary at Chris' current point. All stuff Skip can do with his eyes shut. Again, turbos can be removed with engine fitted but it will be so much better to get them serviced while its out.
Chris - I also meant to say before: use the tools on here such as bookmarking subjects and the search function (when it works!). Don't be afraid to resurrect old threads if they've not fully answered exactly what you need to know as we'll all know what you've already gleamed and don't have to cover old ground. Also keeps important topics fresh for others in similar situations to you.
If I had engine out though I would send turbos off for a refresh if I could afford to do so. He hasn't brought car yet so doesn't know how those turbos have been used or last time they may have had a re fresh. Best to be safe than sorry.
IMO the only things to do at this point would be gearbox strengthening and cooler added, and upgrade the clutch. As mentioned, engine removal is £1k worth of labour, and needs to be out for gearbox removal, so saves doing it again in the future. The car looks to have all the basic 'necessary' mods already.
My gearbox broke running 407bhp and 400lbft. I subsequently spent over 12k upgrading parts and increased power to 500bhp, though this did also include respray, suspension mods etc.
My gearbox broke running 407bhp and 400lbft. I subsequently spent over 12k upgrading parts and increased power to 500bhp, though this did also include respray, suspension mods etc.
Hi mrpbailey - can I ask how long the gearbox lasted once you uprated the power? Did you use it on track days at all? Is it worth just adding cooling for the stock gearbox? Thanks for the contribution especially as it mirrors my set-up closely.
Blue3r - thanks for the tip about using the other facilities on site, I have used the search function a great deal in the past but hadn't understood the bookmark system - very handy. I use to save the web page of any post I was interested in and rename it!
mgbond, thanks for the additional input, right now I am trying mostly to allocate whatever funds to those items that are most useful with the engine having being removed, only because funds are in short supply having just bought the car. In fact I don't really have much in the way of funds left, but do appreciate this is still an opportunity in many regards and must try and make the best use of it I can.
Cheers Chris.
Blue3r - thanks for the tip about using the other facilities on site, I have used the search function a great deal in the past but hadn't understood the bookmark system - very handy. I use to save the web page of any post I was interested in and rename it!
mgbond, thanks for the additional input, right now I am trying mostly to allocate whatever funds to those items that are most useful with the engine having being removed, only because funds are in short supply having just bought the car. In fact I don't really have much in the way of funds left, but do appreciate this is still an opportunity in many regards and must try and make the best use of it I can.
Cheers Chris.
Chris Ho said:
Hi mrpbailey - can I ask how long the gearbox lasted once you uprated the power? Did you use it on track days at all? Is it worth just adding cooling for the stock gearbox? Thanks for the contribution especially as it mirrors my set-up closely.
Cheers Chris.
This was only early last year when it failed, and have used the car nowhere near as much as I'd have liked due to other issues, probably only done 3k miles since.Cheers Chris.
Yes I used the car on track prior to the gearbox failure, I was at about 40k miles when it failed.
I'd say adding the cooling for the gearbox is never going to do any harm, but I'd also guess quite a lot of the internal components are going to be pretty worn by the mileage you're at. Most of us on here sourced a low mileage box from a mondeo and had that strengthened, as the box's on our cars will have been subjected to more stress than on a mondeo.
Thanks for getting back to me. It's a good point that if it has failed in some manner or other, that perhaps it has other worn parts also and could do with a newer item and ideally having had the strengthening mods. This goes well beyond the remit agreed with Bespoke however and I don't think its an option. The problem could also be the clutch rather than the gearbox, in which case the gearbox will have simply benefited from an inspection. I don't intend to go on track either which may help keep down the wear and tear (but then at the outset of this post I did say I was not interested in increasing the power output either and yet that's all I seemed to have talked about!).
All thing's considered however, from what I learned, I do think a modified/strengthened gearbox is money well spent on a car such as my own with a modest power increase.
I must say everyday sees to be passing very slowly, the beginning of November (when I should be able to collect the car) seems an age away.
Chris.
All thing's considered however, from what I learned, I do think a modified/strengthened gearbox is money well spent on a car such as my own with a modest power increase.
I must say everyday sees to be passing very slowly, the beginning of November (when I should be able to collect the car) seems an age away.
Chris.
Chris , we see more boxes failing on the road than we do on the track cars !!!
If the box needs selectors it's all got to come to bits so why not see if bespoke will do you a deal to get it uprated ? Even if it's the clutch only it makes sense at that mileage and current power output to get the box serviced and uprated !!!
My guess is the poor change is due to the selector fork pads coming off and they will need replacing , at that stage I wonder how much more it would cost to get it sorted !!
If the box needs selectors it's all got to come to bits so why not see if bespoke will do you a deal to get it uprated ? Even if it's the clutch only it makes sense at that mileage and current power output to get the box serviced and uprated !!!
My guess is the poor change is due to the selector fork pads coming off and they will need replacing , at that stage I wonder how much more it would cost to get it sorted !!
Tuxman - your right! I will speak to Bespoke about this and see if we cannot come to some arrangement. Much of it (as always) is to some degree about available funds, but this thread was all about (in the beginning!) what best use to make of the fact the engine had to be removed anyway. You mentioned earlier it was about £2,000 to get the gearbox strengthened, did that include getting the gearbox out, or just for the work to the gearbox? Reading the forum I have heard about a chap who works his magic on gearboxes - do you know who people are referring to? Thanks Chris.
Tuxman - please stop talking about more power! As regards the Gearbox I was hoping it was the other way around 2k including removing it. I note from previous posts that 5th gear is often the problem, why would that be? Anyway I will discuss with Bespoke and to some degree we need to know what the existing problem is first and take it from there. It would seem however, if at all possible, to get the gearbox done is a sensible option in the circumstances.
Sounds like a good plan !!! I have just helped a mate build a 500 bhp Noble and it's stunning !!!! One of the fastest most drivable Nobles in the uk !!!
Amazing how far we have brought them since there release !!!
Winter is coming , you have 6 months to get all the jobs done and ready for the spring , see you at Silverstone in May
: D
Amazing how far we have brought them since there release !!!
Winter is coming , you have 6 months to get all the jobs done and ready for the spring , see you at Silverstone in May
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Great Photo on the Grid, I think I have seen that reproduced elsewhere. Please keep me in mind if you organise a trip next year (I won't get under your feet!). Not sure I'll be on the track (not done anything like that before) but it would be great to see how it all works, see other cars and meet other Noble owners.
As I said mate , everybody welcome !!
Plenty of passenger rides for those who do not want to go on track , I normally post the details both on Pistonheads and Facebook after Xmas , also we will have a Noble owners club stand at Autosport I. January if you fancy meeting a few owners .
This was this year .
Tux
Plenty of passenger rides for those who do not want to go on track , I normally post the details both on Pistonheads and Facebook after Xmas , also we will have a Noble owners club stand at Autosport I. January if you fancy meeting a few owners .
This was this year .
Tux
Hi Chris from another Devon owner, you have brought the quickest colour car as well, known to add 100mph to the top speed....fact!!! 
I'm just about to get mine remapped to around 500bhp, had gear box and clutch upgraded. If I can help with any questions, feel free to email me. It takes the Devon count to four that I know of.
I'm just about to get mine remapped to around 500bhp, had gear box and clutch upgraded. If I can help with any questions, feel free to email me. It takes the Devon count to four that I know of.
Hi Chris
I took your car out for a test drive when I was looking to buy it, but a 500bhp one came up for sale. It's all about more power....
I remember your car was in lovely condition, you must be pleased.
I think you have a Noble Motorsport's intercooler, which is as good as a ProAlloy.
I took your car out for a test drive when I was looking to buy it, but a 500bhp one came up for sale. It's all about more power....
I remember your car was in lovely condition, you must be pleased.
I think you have a Noble Motorsport's intercooler, which is as good as a ProAlloy.
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