looking to buy a Noble things to look for

looking to buy a Noble things to look for

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zacey boy

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23 posts

175 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Good afternoon

I have always wanted to own a Noble and the time has come that I am in the position to buy.

I know some of the mods that are almost essential tunnel mod, twin fan and track day sump. What other things should I also be looking out for.

Any help, advice would be greatly appriciated. I would prefer a GTO 3 or 3r but if the right GTO came up I would be interested.

Thank you in advance
Zac

mgbond

6,749 posts

232 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Only the GTO would need the fan cowling. LSD is important but all 3Rs have it already.
Tunnels mod is not easentiL so don't let that stop u.

Ian Perry

256 posts

156 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Hi Zac

When through the buying process myself a couple of months ago. Look at as many cars as practical ,buy on condition and budget for a bit of a spend after buying .

I have had loads of cars many specialist but the Noble is one of the hardest to assess IMO. Good luck with the search and enjoy.

Regards.

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Thank you to the both of you it's really appreciated just got to wait for a few to come up with a good spec then go and have a real look over them.

From what you have said aim for a nice GTO 3R as that has everything needed. If a well spec'd GTO 3 comes up with 6 speed box, LSD and few other bits come up I will loom also.

Anything further advice warmly welcomed.

Kind regards

v8yes

1,250 posts

171 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Yhm

Chapppers

4,483 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Whether a GTO, GTO3, 3R or 400 the cars are all over 10 years old now, and I highly doubt there's a factory original one left now. If there is, it won't have been used much because the factory original cars, in my opinion weren't up to it. Most people will have fixed and upgraded and strengthened so really just buy on condition and spec. There are 2.5s out there with the spec nearing an M400, there are modified monsters with 500,600,700bhp. There are still a few unknown unmodified (unfixed, as I call it) examples. Go and look at as many cars as you can and find the one you like and that feels right.

We all know the main things to look out for and fix, most cars will have these now but Nobles are inventive little buggers and as said they're all over a decade old now so just budget for a bit of tinkering and you'll be happy. They can be used for mundane, everyday tasks and it's often quite fun (that budget celebrity feeling hehe to but I'd suggest running a second car to a) keep the noble feeling that bit more special b) not do unnecessarily small journeys on an engine that likes should be warmed up and cooled down properly. c)they're fairly hideously impractical. Yes you can do silly things like put a deconstructed bike in the passenger seat or do the odd bit of shopping but they have a very specific purpose and that purpose isn't load lugging.

Epic car for relatively small amounts of money.

Edited by Chapppers on Sunday 17th May 00:15

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Chapppers said:
Whether a GTO, GTO3, 3R or 400 the cars are all over 10 years old now, and I highly doubt there's a factory original one left now. If there is, it won't have been used because the factory original cars, in my opinion weren't up to it.
I think you'll find there are quite a few. Interesting comment - what is it you think is inferior in what the factory produced?

Chapppers

4,483 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Diff, cooling, the original ECU noble replaced themselves, various parts of the wiring loom, sump, hub nuts! All things we know to do, I wouldn't want a car that hadn't had some of these at least looked at. Unfortunately I bought exactly that and then spent half the cost of the car again making it "right"

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Chapppers said:
Diff, cooling, the original ECU noble replaced themselves, various parts of the wiring loom, sump, hub nuts! All things we know to do, I wouldn't want a car that hadn't had some of these at least looked at. Unfortunately I bought exactly that and then spent half the cost of the car again making it "right"
Are you thinking only of cars that will be tracked then? If so yes, you'll need a track day dump, otherwise not. Ecu (and loom) yes, if you are talking about a very early 2.5. Otherwise I can't agree and feel you are unfairly dissing a solid and competent product, solely based on your personal experience. All IMHO of course.

Chapppers

4,483 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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AMG Merc said:
Chapppers said:
Diff, cooling, the original ECU noble replaced themselves, various parts of the wiring loom, sump, hub nuts! All things we know to do, I wouldn't want a car that hadn't had some of these at least looked at. Unfortunately I bought exactly that and then spent half the cost of the car again making it "right"
Are you thinking only of cars that will be tracked then? If so yes, you'll need a track day dump, otherwise not. Ecu (and loom) yes, if you are talking about a very early 2.5. Otherwise I can't agree and feel you are unfairly dissing a solid and competent product, solely based on your personal experience. All IMHO of course.
I'm really just naming things mentioned in every Noble buyer's guide ever written, you've been around here a long time so this can't be news to you?!?! I'm not going to sit here dissing my own car or anyone else's but a lot of people have had these issues so if someone wants to buy one it's best they get the info they deserve.

Ok yes, technically a Noble only needs a track sump if it's taken on a track, but people also need to realise how literal that is and that just because they look like a hardcore track car, you shouldn't even be tempted into a training day, they're simply too capable at pulling lateral G than their bottom ends can cope with.

Edited by Chapppers on Saturday 16th May 23:59

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Sorry didn't want to start an argument. I will look at them over the summer but they are very few and far between atm as you all know due to the summer almost on our door step. Least that gives me time to have a good look at a few and then aim to buy late summer. I wouldn't never fun the noble as my sole car it would be in the garage and used weekend and nice weather.

Thanks for everyone's advice it goes a long way. Can't wait to get one and join the noble community :-)

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Jetstream Motorsport have a Stunning 3R for sale and Ross Docherty on face book has a lovely 3R as well !!! Both are the best I've seen with some great upgrades !!

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Cheers tuxman. I tried to look at jetsteams but they do not have a specific website to look at it and there are a load of Ross Docherty's on Facebook.


TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Ask to join the Facebook group , I will let you in .
Jetstream office number 01162799339

Tux

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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I have liked the jetstream motorsport page. Is this what you meant

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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No there is a private Noble Facebook group , search Noble M/10/12/400/600 . Send in a request to join .

D_G

1,828 posts

209 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Hi Zac,

What are you going to use the car for? I've got an early GTO3, factory fan upgrade, fuel pump mod, track sump, Porsche nuts, yellowshed remap and that's it.
It been 100% reliable but mine has an easy summer road life with a euro road trip etc throw in, 20k fantastic miles with me. I'd buy an original as possible car with as much history as possible, if you are after a track car then its a real compromise which can cost some serious money to keep up together.

Cheers

Dave

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Tuxman, I can't thank you enough for allowing me onto the Facebook page. I will be looking through very shortly.

D b have you got any pictures?if so I will give you my email address. The noble will not be tracked will be just used as a weekend car and will not be sold will be kept forever as it is what I have dreamed of since 2001 when the 1st on came out.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy a car with a great big wing on the back, but not take it on track where its natural home is, but each to their own.

IMHO, these cars tick so many boxes. Track toy, but you can take it away for the weekend. Use in the wet. Take it to car-shows. Commute on a sunny Friday.
Not an everyday car, but it is a real head turner. Get used to thumbs-ups from pedestrians, flashes from other car drivers (and not because there's a speed trap or a horse around the corner - happened twice on the way home this evening) and little kids mouthing "wow".

The question you will be asked when parked up is "Is it great on track?". Sad if you have to answer, "don't know, I don't want stone chips on my front clam".

zacey boy

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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That is true, might have to do a couple but I know how addictive they are. Brand hatch only around the corner ........ That's just dangerous :-). Yes I can see exactly where your coming from.