Back among the Nobility

Back among the Nobility

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noble_al

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170 posts

197 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Greetings, finally after what seems like an eternity since parting company with my beloved GTO-3R a few years back, I took the plunge and bought my dream M400 smile I'll post some pics when the sun returns again (next week hopefully) but in the meantime I have a couple of questions:

I'd like to get a couple of things done/checked out on the new toy (hopefully these can be done at the same time and place).

Firstly I'd like a remap/rolling road and secondly a 4 wheel alignment.

The car already has the following upgrades and as such may have been remapped in the past (I have no evidence of this though) but I would like to get it done so I know for sure which at the very least should ensure the fueling is correct:

Upgrades:
Pro-Alloy Intercooler
Oil Separator
Fuel Pump
Pipercraft SS Exhaust System
Jetstream Manifolds
Hard-Pipe Kit

As for the alignment, I am a bit of an alignment junkie to the extent that whenever I purchase a new toy I always have one done. However I recall from my 3R that there was virtually no adjustment to be had at the rear. Can anyone tell me if this is the same for the M400 running factory suspension components?

Any help much appreaciated

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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For geographical purposes I should have added, I am East Anglia/Cambridgeshire based

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Welcome back to the fold. Was it one of the cars recently advertised on here?

For a rolling rd session and remap you need to contact Trevor jasper and visit his place in Rayne, essex. If you pm me I'll reply with his mobile number.

The alignment can probably be done by any decent outfit. I went to bespoke in ware but I'm sure there's somewhere closer to you if you look around. I think you're correct about the rear camber.

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Hey Niall, thanks for the reply. I bought my 3R from Giles Cooper at the TVR centre, so know the guys and especially Skip at Bespoke well. Trevor Jasper is a name I've heard many times in relation to mapping but I wasn't sure where he was based or even if he was still in business, it's been that long. I'll pm you for that number shortly.

My new toy was indeed advertised on here, it's a grey '06 car which was owned by Phil, a top bloke, in fact exactly the type of owner I'd like my car to have when I buy it, it really has been kept extremely well.

johns355

525 posts

154 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Hi Al, was that the 400 from St Neots way? I too live in Cambridgeshire near Ely, I had a remap on my 3r some 4 months ago by Trevor jasper, John

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Hey John, yes indeed that is the car, in gleaming gunmetal grey with a chassis and engine bay so clean you could eat your dinner off it biggrin

What's the story of your car and how did the remap go? I've only heard very good things about Trevor Jasper and am planning on asking him to do mine, especially now Niall has kindly pointed me in his direction.

johns355

525 posts

154 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Hi Al. Yeah got on fine with Trevor, I didn't want to maximise every bit out the car, I'm running the pro alloy intercooler, 400 pump, uprated valve springs and it came out with 385hp and 400 torque, completely changed the performance of the car and I love it. I have also emailed you through ph, John

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Hey John, I got your pm/email thanks but not sure you got my reply? It's a bit unclear (to me at least) whether hitting reply goes back to your email or to a generic pistonheads address that doesn't forward to the sender?

Anyway, just to let you know I'm not ignoring you wink and being just down the road, we should get the cars together some time smile

johns355

525 posts

154 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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noble_al said:
Hey John, I got your pm/email thanks but not sure you got my reply? It's a bit unclear (to me at least) whether hitting reply goes back to your email or to a generic pistonheads address that doesn't forward to the sender?

Anyway, just to let you know I'm not ignoring you wink and being just down the road, we should get the cars together some time smile
Hi Al, no problem mate, I didn't receive a reply email! Yeah must meet up sometime, if you haven't already get yourself on the owners Fb page- quite a bit more action on there!

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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Welcome back :-) I'm at Peterborough so if we are going to have a meet up let me know :-)

If you want a chassis setup I would recommend Chris at Center Gravity

http://www.centregravity.co.uk/


He has worked on my setup and has done quite a few Nobles , fantastic setup .

sundance002

1,304 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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Hi Al. Welcome back.
Yes Your right there is no adjustment at the rear and very little at the front. Jetstream do a rose joint set up for the Noble which will allow you to adjust the camber and toe at the front and rear. I had it fitted a few years back and it made a huge difference to the handling .
I run 2.5 negative camber front and rear on my 400 with a little toe in.
I found that best for road and track.

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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TuxMan said:
Welcome back :-) I'm at Peterborough so if we are going to have a meet up let me know :-)

If you want a chassis setup I would recommend Chris at Center Gravity

http://www.centregravity.co.uk/


He has worked on my setup and has done quite a few Nobles , fantastic setup .
Hi Simon,

I know Chris at Center Gravity and indeed spent a couple of full days with him when he properly re-engineered the suspension on my Cayman S, which had been badly setup by another establishment I won't name here. Great guy and extremely thorough.

It seems there are a fair few of us dotted around this part of the East of England, so it would be a shame not to organise a get together while we still have some decent weather smile

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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sundance002 said:
Hi Al. Welcome back.
Yes Your right there is no adjustment at the rear and very little at the front. Jetstream do a rose joint set up for the Noble which will allow you to adjust the camber and toe at the front and rear. I had it fitted a few years back and it made a huge difference to the handling .
I run 2.5 negative camber front and rear on my 400 with a little toe in.
I found that best for road and track.
Hey Craig,

That sounds brilliant and a very worthwhile upgrade. What sort of cost are we talking about? Sounds like there could be a fair bit of labour involved?

sundance002

1,304 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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noble_al said:
Hey Craig,

That sounds brilliant and a very worthwhile upgrade. What sort of cost are we talking about? Sounds like there could be a fair bit of labour involved?
Tbh I can't remember the cost, I do remember, it was not to labour intensive.
Worth giving them a call as prices may of changed in the last few years.
Definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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If you do manage to discover the price, please let me know. My car will be there next month having new turbos and this sounds like something for the shopping list...

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Spoke to Dave at Jetstream this morning. The good news is the cost which at £300-350 + VAT seems very reasonable to me. The bad news is he said they'd need the car for 7-10 days which, unless I misunderstood something, seems like rather a long time?

Further good news however, is with Chris at Centre Gravity just up the road, it presents the perfect opportunity to get a great alignment done immediately after Jetstream have finished with it.

TuxMan

9,010 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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They have to remove the wishbones and get them modified , takes a bit of time .
That's what I did , chris collected it from Jetstream then I collected from him a few days later .

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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And what would CG charge for an alignment, assuming nothing else needs refreshing? They were good with my old 996TT but it wasn't cheap...

noble_al

Original Poster:

170 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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It's true that Chris' services at CG don't come cheap but he is, as you say, good at what he does. I took an ill handling Cayman S to him some time ago and he totally re-engineered the suspension, impressive work but both labour intensive and expensive.

However, as he's just up the road from Jetstream, who by their own admission "don't have a laser rig", it seems the logical choice if you don't mind paying a little extra for an accurate job, resulting in one very fine handling Noble I would have thought smile

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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For the record, I was chatting to Matt at JS this weekend and his opinion is that the M400 is so sorted as standard that there is no need whatsoever for the adjustable bits and bobs. He also seriously questioned the consensus on the reputation of a certain suspension specialist...