Crashed market place

[mike74]

sundance002 said:

The House and car market seems to of slowed, considerable over the last 3 months,
Brexit and the pound, has put a pause on these markets, I'm sure it will be A tempary one, spring next year, things will start to get back to normal,
Lotus have just brought the new Evora 410 Sport out 82k. Me thinks our cars are still the best there is for the money, in this range of car. The price will continue to rise, and the demand will become higher,
But like always? Disposable income and confidence play a big part especially in the car market.
The reason I mention the Evora? Is still uses a V6 supercharged,produces 410bhp. Performance is nowhere near as good as an M400, it's no more usable than an M400, and it's 82k? And will devalue, where as the M400 will rise.
If I was buying a M12 it would be now.
In the next few years you won't find any under 30k good ones 40k. M400 65k if you can find one, my predictions for 3 years time.

Edited by sundance002 on Wednesday 2nd November 23:43

''Spring next year things will start to get back to normal''.... by ''normal'' I assume you mean people buying houses and cars at insane bubble prices, fuelled by record levels of debt and all in the belief that prices only ever go up?

[Blu3R]

mike74 said:

sundance002 said:

The House and car market seems to of slowed, considerable over the last 3 months,
Brexit and the pound, has put a pause on these markets, I'm sure it will be A tempary one, spring next year, things will start to get back to normal,
Lotus have just brought the new Evora 410 Sport out 82k. Me thinks our cars are still the best there is for the money, in this range of car. The price will continue to rise, and the demand will become higher,
But like always? Disposable income and confidence play a big part especially in the car market.
The reason I mention the Evora? Is still uses a V6 supercharged,produces 410bhp. Performance is nowhere near as good as an M400, it's no more usable than an M400, and it's 82k? And will devalue, where as the M400 will rise.
If I was buying a M12 it would be now.
In the next few years you won't find any under 30k good ones 40k. M400 65k if you can find one, my predictions for 3 years time.

Edited by sundance002 on Wednesday 2nd November 23:43

''Spring next year things will start to get back to normal''.... by ''normal'' I assume you mean people buying houses and cars at insane bubble prices, fuelled by record levels of debt and all in the belief that prices only ever go up?

Yes, probably
(bandwagon, gravy train, etc choo choo!!)

[Ian Perry]

sundance002 said:

The House and car market seems to of slowed, considerable over the last 3 months,
Brexit and the pound, has put a pause on these markets, I'm sure it will be A tempary one, spring next year, things will start to get back to normal,
Lotus have just brought the new Evora 410 Sport out 82k. Me thinks our cars are still the best there is for the money, in this range of car. The price will continue to rise, and the demand will become higher,
But like always? Disposable income and confidence play a big part especially in the car market.
The reason I mention the Evora? Is still uses a V6 supercharged,produces 410bhp. Performance is nowhere near as good as an M400, it's no more usable than an M400, and it's 82k? And will devalue, where as the M400 will rise.
If I was buying a M12 it would be now.
In the next few years you won't find any under 30k good ones 40k. M400 65k if you can find one, my predictions for 3 years time.

Edited by sundance002 on Wednesday 2nd November 23:43

Housing market is booming locally ,it will slow down at the end of November but it always does last 3 months have been exceptional.

[Spindoctor]

sundance002 said:

Lotus have just brought the new Evora 410 Sport out 82k. Me thinks our cars are still the best there is for the money, in this range of car. The price will continue to rise, and the demand will become higher,
But like always? Disposable income and confidence play a big part especially in the car market.
The reason I mention the Evora? Is still uses a V6 supercharged,produces 410bhp. Performance is nowhere near as good as an M400, it's no more usable than an M400, and it's 82k? And will devalue, where as the M400 will rise.
If I was buying a M12 it would be now.
In the next few years you won't find any under 30k good ones 40k. M400 65k if you can find one, my predictions for 3 years time.

Edited by sundance002 on Wednesday 2nd November 23:43

I drove the Exige 350 Sport recently, brilliant car. Good performance, great handling. More expensive than earlier Exige models but at less than 60k new it's an interesting option. And there's an open top version. Have to say I'm tempted, but it'll be the Noble's garage mate that makes way. Can't imagine wanting to be without the 3R, it's a long term relationship. Don't really care what happens to its value, this is love not money.

[Jarcy]

Spindoctor said:

I drove the Exige 350 Sport recently, brilliant car. Good performance, great handling. More expensive than earlier Exige models but at less than 60k new it's an interesting option. And there's an open top version. Have to say I'm tempted, but it'll be the Noble's garage mate that makes way. Can't imagine wanting to be without the 3R, it's a long term relationship. Don't really care what happens to its value, this is love not money.

For me, the Exige is too similar type of car to own both. Although I do miss having a convertible.
I'm sort of hankering after something like the following (convertibles):
Jag XKR
Maserati GT
Aston V8 Vantage
Not that I've got the money of either.

[olliete]

Jarcy said:

For me, the Exige is too similar type of car to own both. Although I do miss having a convertible.
I'm sort of hankering after something like the following (convertibles):
Jag XKR
Maserati GT
Aston V8 Vantage
Not that I've got the money of either.

I sold my Nob for a TVR Tamora as I really missed enjoying the theatre of driving without being worried that I'd lose my license - I didn't enjoy driving the Noble slowly.

To me, the new Lotus range attract a very different type of customer to a Noble: they are new cars, they don't require any preventative maintenace, if they go wrong they are fixed under warranty, they are more civilised (marginally!), they are brand new with competitve finance deals etc.

[AMG Merc]

Someone should rename this thread. Every time I see it I think a Nobby has crashed

As I've often written, Noble prices will only go up, not down as supply diminishes over time - simples.

[Spindoctor]

Jarcy said:

Spindoctor said:

I drove the Exige 350 Sport recently, brilliant car. Good performance, great handling. More expensive than earlier Exige models but at less than 60k new it's an interesting option. And there's an open top version. Have to say I'm tempted, but it'll be the Noble's garage mate that makes way. Can't imagine wanting to be without the 3R, it's a long term relationship. Don't really care what happens to its value, this is love not money.

For me, the Exige is too similar type of car to own both. Although I do miss having a convertible.
I'm sort of hankering after something like the following (convertibles):
Jag XKR
Maserati GT
Aston V8 Vantage
Not that I've got the money of either.

Agree they're quite similar in some respects. Problem is that once you've got such a well balanced, exciting driver's car as the Noble its hard to really enjoy and hold onto something that doesn't quite deliver that. 997 Turbo was soulless, Tuscan felt like a barge. The Gallardo is the best garage mate the Noble's ever had, its better in some ways but it does feel less nimble and a bit agricultural compared to the Noble.

So you end up considering cars with similar characteristics to the Noble(well, I do) and there aren't many around.

I'd have the Exige alongside the Noble because as a new car it shouldn't need all the pampering that the Noble needs and gets, its a convertible, I like the sport and race modes, and it has amazing handling. At the risk of being flamed, its even more capable in the handling department than the Nob. But it doesn't sound as good as the Gallardo, doesn't look as stunning and it isn't a Lambo.

So I'll carry on being indecisive. Maybe.

[Juno]

I currently have the Performante so a bit less wight and a few more horses and as engaging but in a different way to the Noble, I agree with you about being the best stable mate for the Noble with some of the other options ie 997 Turbo etc being a bit sterile. For that reason I went the whole hog and ordered the new Lambo Huracan Performante LP640 which will be very engaging and someones favorite colour?

Spindoctor said:

Jarcy said:

Spindoctor said:

I drove the Exige 350 Sport recently, brilliant car. Good performance, great handling. More expensive than earlier Exige models but at less than 60k new it's an interesting option. And there's an open top version. Have to say I'm tempted, but it'll be the Noble's garage mate that makes way. Can't imagine wanting to be without the 3R, it's a long term relationship. Don't really care what happens to its value, this is love not money.

For me, the Exige is too similar type of car to own both. Although I do miss having a convertible.
I'm sort of hankering after something like the following (convertibles):
Jag XKR
Maserati GT
Aston V8 Vantage
Not that I've got the money of either.

Agree they're quite similar in some respects. Problem is that once you've got such a well balanced, exciting driver's car as the Noble its hard to really enjoy and hold onto something that doesn't quite deliver that. 997 Turbo was soulless, Tuscan felt like a barge. The Gallardo is the best garage mate the Noble's ever had, its better in some ways but it does feel less nimble and a bit agricultural compared to the Noble.

So you end up considering cars with similar characteristics to the Noble(well, I do) and there aren't many around.

I'd have the Exige alongside the Noble because as a new car it shouldn't need all the pampering that the Noble needs and gets, its a convertible, I like the sport and race modes, and it has amazing handling. At the risk of being flamed, its even more capable in the handling department than the Nob. But it doesn't sound as good as the Gallardo, doesn't look as stunning and it isn't a Lambo.

So I'll carry on being indecisive. Maybe.

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[Spindoctor]

Saw your other thread, fabulous looking car. Hope you take delivery before the end of the decade!

[Juno]

Its Tux's colour

Spindoctor said:

Saw your other thread, fabulous looking car. Hope you take delivery before the end of the decade!

[verba1]

i drove my mates gallardo performante drop head lp570/4 570bhp v10 ...it's incredible . if i had the money that's the one .

[Juno]

You can have mine when my Huracan Performante turns up,I bought one on the rebound when looking for another Noble, they have great character and passion and like the Noble they are a special event to drive

verba1 said:

i drove my mates gallardo performante drop head lp570/4 570bhp v10 ...it's incredible . if i had the money that's the one .

Edited by Juno on Saturday 5th November 21:27

[TuxMan]

Juno said:

Its Tux's colour

Spindoctor said:

Saw your other thread, fabulous looking car. Hope you take delivery before the end of the decade!

Now there is a man with taste

[Juno]

I had trouble saying it at first G G G GR GR GRRrrr Green

TuxMan said:

Juno said:

Its Tux's colour

Spindoctor said:

Saw your other thread, fabulous looking car. Hope you take delivery before the end of the decade!

Now there is a man with taste

[mgbond]

Spindoctor said:

I drove the Exige 350 Sport recently, brilliant car. Good performance, great handling. More expensive than earlier Exige models but at less than 60k new it's an interesting option. And there's an open top version. Have to say I'm tempted, but it'll be the Noble's garage mate that makes way. Can't imagine wanting to be without the 3R, it's a long term relationship. Don't really care what happens to its value, this is love not money.

Maybe the Evora 410 would be a good stable mate for the Noble. I really like them and with 4 seats it would mean I can do more with the family. Although I can't afford one, maybe as prices drop and the Noble rises then you never know. But it would be very hard for me to let the Noble go as I've done so much too it and know it so well.

[AMG Merc]

Bondy said:

But it would be very hard for me to let the Noble go as I've done so much too it and know it so well.

Noble (M10-12-400) must be one of the top marques for owner's holding onto them. Says something.

[Blu3R]

AMG Merc said:

Bondy said:

But it would be very hard for me to let the Noble go as I've done so much too it and know it so well.

Noble (M10-12-400) must be one of the top marques for owner's holding onto them. Says something.

I gather that's true of the M600 too.

[Juno]

I considered the M600 when I ordered the new Lambo but felt the Lambo was the play safe option, couldnt get my head around where the M600 sits in the market,great car but pedigree?!

Blu3R said:

AMG Merc said:

Bondy said:

But it would be very hard for me to let the Noble go as I've done so much too it and know it so well.

Noble (M10-12-400) must be one of the top marques for owner's holding onto them. Says something.

I gather that's true of the M600 too.

[Scooby P1]

Juno said:

Edited by Juno on Saturday 5th November 21:27

I love the Performante. How much would you let yours go for Juno?