Porsche Taycan and future Porsche EVs and values

[Discombobulate]

kmpowell said:

The problem with the 'leather-free' interior, is even when selected, the acres of cheap feeling plastic on the standard dash, tunnel, doors etc, still don't get covered.

Agree. And the price of covering these bits in anything decent is HUGE.

[Ed.Neumann]

AMVSVNick said:

This
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

That looks bloody lovely!!

Enjoy!

[tomvcarter]

I'm considering a used Taycan Cross Tourismo (estate) in 4S or Turbo as they seem to be a lot of car for the money.

The 4Ss look like they are hovering around £70k mark.

However with all the chat about the huge depreciation, a new model etc are they actually selling for £70k or are they actually going for under?
Just not sure if i should wade in with a low offer, or if the list price is considered low already.

Anyone else doing the same?

[tomvcarter]

AMVSVNick said:

Deal is done. I would have preferred Alcantara but there was always going to be a compromise when buying used and only liking two colours. I've paid less that £90k and am happy.

Wow you paid under £90k and its listed at £104k?!

[tight fart]

Some serious man maths in this thread, love it.

[AMVSVNick]

tomvcarter said:

AMVSVNick said:

Deal is done. I would have preferred Alcantara but there was always going to be a compromise when buying used and only liking two colours. I've paid less that £90k and am happy.

Wow you paid under £90k and its listed at £104k?!

List £124k in November

[981SPYGANG]

Ed.Neumann said:

AMVSVNick said:

This
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

That looks bloody lovely!!

Enjoy!

Agreed looks great…….trade bid in 3 years?

[tight fart]

981SPYGANG said:

Agreed looks great…….trade bid in 3 years?

£45k ish?

[AMVSVNick]

981SPYGANG said:

Ed.Neumann said:

AMVSVNick said:

This
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

That looks bloody lovely!!

Enjoy!

Agreed looks great…….trade bid in 3 years?

As previously mentioned, I'm looking at minimum of 6 years and 100k miles hopefully, so not really relevant to me.

[Murph7355]

tomvcarter said:

...
The 4Ss look like they are hovering around £70k mark.

However with all the chat about the huge depreciation, a new model etc are they actually selling for £70k or are they actually going for under?
Just not sure if i should wade in with a low offer, or if the list price is considered low already.
...

The only way to tell for sure is to watch the approved used site like a hawk for a few months. You can "save" cars to watch, keep a note on prices and see what happens.

Looks like 10% off sticker prices is achievable if you strike at the right time - when a car's been on for a while and the dealers have chipped away at prices, and if you're prepared to compromise on spec.

I wasn't looking at 4S CTs when I bought, so not sure what the typical time advertised is. I'd expect cars around the 70k mark to move more quickly tbh - this is the bottom end of that particular market.

As regards a low ball offer, all you can do is ask. And you can always offer more later if you feel the need

[981SPYGANG]

AMVSVNick said:

981SPYGANG said:

Ed.Neumann said:

AMVSVNick said:

This
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

That looks bloody lovely!!

Enjoy!

Agreed looks great…….trade bid in 3 years?

As previously mentioned, I'm looking at minimum of 6 years and 100k miles hopefully, so not really relevant to me.

Perfect

[AMVSVNick]

981SPYGANG said:

AMVSVNick said:

981SPYGANG said:

Ed.Neumann said:

AMVSVNick said:

This
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

That looks bloody lovely!!

Enjoy!

Agreed looks great…….trade bid in 3 years?

As previously mentioned, I'm looking at minimum of 6 years and 100k miles hopefully, so not really relevant to me.

Perfect

Collected yesterday, what a fking machine

[Ed.Neumann]

Nice.

Enjoy it!

[Murph7355]

AMVSVNick said:

Collected yesterday, what a fking machine

Excellent!

You can now be accused of being a tree hugging EVangelist like a few of us - it adds to the fun

[AMVSVNick]

Murph7355 said:

AMVSVNick said:

Collected yesterday, what a fking machine

Excellent!

You can now be accused of being a tree hugging EVangelist like a few of us - it adds to the fun

[Cobnapint]

So what's the actual reason(s) for plummeting values? It can't be because the car is a heap of crap because it isn't, I drove a Taycan GTS ST the other day and thought it was fantastic.

Is it charging infrastructure? Range? Or the burning thought that you're carrying around a £30k time bomb in the form of a battery pack?

[PinkHouse]

Cobnapint said:

So what's the actual reason(s) for plummeting values? It can't be because the car is a heap of crap because it isn't, I drove a Taycan GTS ST the other day and thought it was fantastic.

Is it charging infrastructure? Range? Or the burning thought that you're carrying around a £30k time bomb in the form of a battery pack?

Because they were highly overpriced from the start. It didn't seem to affect sales initially because of the bloated tax incentives for the first buyers but now the open market is deciding their true value

[Cheib]

Cobnapint said:

So what's the actual reason(s) for plummeting values? It can't be because the car is a heap of crap because it isn't, I drove a Taycan GTS ST the other day and thought it was fantastic.

Is it charging infrastructure? Range? Or the burning thought that you're carrying around a £30k time bomb in the form of a battery pack?

New sales were driven by tax incentives so prices artificially high. New Taycan due out on the next few months seems like it is 30 to 50% “better” when you look at range etc.

Cost to run (insurance) is another issue.

When was the last time an ICE car did something 30% better than its predecessor ? EV’s residuals will not be anything like what we’re used to. The speed of development and thus redundancy will see to that.

[Cobnapint]

I see, thanks both.
That's a shame. I fancy a look at the Macan EV when it breaks cover soon, and the Q6 e-tron in a couple of weeks.
And maybe eventually the Cayenne E when it shows next year.
Might need some buyer incentives putting on the table first though.

[AMVSVNick]

Cobnapint said:

Or the burning thought that you're carrying around a £30k time bomb in the form of a battery pack?

Which over time will reduce substantially.

One of my clients is an OEM EV manufacturer, you see quite a few of their vehicles in London

The cost of batteries to OEM is nothing like what the bds are charging retail.