Stiggy Mills Your next design?

Stiggy Mills Your next design?

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rdodger

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1,088 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Afternoon Mr Mills and fellow pistonheaders

I have been watching with interest the development of your Exocet mx5 based car. I also see you are about to launch an MX5 based coupe.

Now you are a convert to the 5 have you any plans to take it further as a donor?

I would love to see something along the lines of a lightweight body (similar to the Phoenix?) on a lightweight chassis running MX5 suspension, engine, box diff etc. Basically using as much as possible from the donor.

I believe the MX5 is the perfect donor. FR, Cheap, light, plentiful and most of all is already a pretty lightweight, good handling car. For a grand you can supercharge it to around 200bhp. Sounds to me to be made for the job!

I would guess the kit could be pretty cheap as there are no suspension parts to fabricate, just a chassis and 2-3 piece pretty body.

I think the MX5 should take over where the MK2 Escort left off. Just better!

What do you think?

Make it pretty, light and cheap and I would be your first order.

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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www.cyanacars.com

Cyanna was doing something similar with the Mx500, but I don't know what happened to the project.

Yazza54

18,591 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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fuoriserie said:
www.cyanacars.com

Cyanna was doing something similar with the Mx500, but I don't know what happened to the project.
I spoke to him and it's shelved.

stig mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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I will have to be careful in my reply, I keep getting my posts deleted so I may be banned anytime soon! Bye bye, if I do!
I can only develop cars that I would like in my own garage as I can only find impetus to work on projects that float my boat. I prefer modern, crisp contemporary designs although I appreciate there is big demand for retro.
The MX5 is a great car, soft in styling it may be, some have even suggested the probable proffesion of the driver!
It's the reliability and dynamics that light my fire, and of course the value.
That said unless you are going to create something completely different than it was originally then one could argue there is little point.
Exocet is 300kgs lighter than a standard MX5 road car.
MEVX5 (to be luanched at Newark 18th/19th June) converts an old faded soft top MX5 to a smart Coupe, it dont leak, mist up and has better security and luggage space.
SONIC 7 and ROCKET convert boring Focus cars to lightweight modern sports cars. ATOMIC is a mad machine designed for X bikers. tR1ke is a bike you cannot fall off. They all have a point.
I agree however that a full bodied car based on a dated design may sell well.
Come and say hello at Newark, regards Stiggy

rdodger

Original Poster:

1,088 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Thanks for the reply.

In my mind the car would weigh much less than an MX5. Around 500-600kg.

I mentioned retro as they seem popular. I like the Raw Fulcrum but many don't.

I wonder why a few companies are now developing cars based on the 3 series when MX5 components are more suited. They are lighter for a start and more suited to a small sports car since they are from one. Better gear ratios etc.

I will come and see you at Newark. I will be very interested to see the Coupe.

Furyblade_Lee

4,108 posts

225 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Sounds interesting Mr. Mills. Cannot understand why you posts get deleted though, stooooopid. I am also a lover of the MX5, cannot wait to see what it is. I am off in my kitcar spanking round the Alps on the 17th, will have to wait till i get home on the 27th to see what you have come up with!!!

rdodger

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1,088 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Furyblade_Lee said:
Sounds interesting Mr. Mills. Cannot understand why you posts get deleted though, stooooopid. I am also a lover of the MX5, cannot wait to see what it is. I am off in my kitcar spanking round the Alps on the 17th, will have to wait till i get home on the 27th to see what you have come up with!!!
Will you miss me frown

Iwantoneofthose

355 posts

193 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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MX-5 bits in a bespoke chasis would make a nice underpinning for the Sammio Spyder(s).

www.sammio-spyder.com/

seansverige

719 posts

183 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Anyone seen this weeks news on totalkitcar.com? Couple of lo-res pics of the MEVX5. Very nice, best original kitcar design in a long, long time: wears it's Elise influence on it's sleeve (no bad thing) but something new at the same time.

http://www.totalkitcar.com/news.php#2077

Can't make Detling, so hopefully Stig or someone who goes can post some juicy shots after the official unveiling.

stig mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Thank you Sean, I will be sending Steve Hole at TKC a picture on Thursday next week for his Friday news, it should be somewhere near complete by then, having a little difficulty with vacuum forming of the headlamp covers at the moment. It's being painted right now. I made the tools 25mm too big for my mates former at RTR!
Primer is on, just not sure on colour, red or white. I love bright red cars but white is the new silver, or so I am told. I am only keeping it secret to hope to boost numbers at Newark as it is my favorite show so I hope I am not irritating folk by holding back. That said they say you only get one chance at a first impression and the grey primer is not a good look. I think this maybe seen as an advert so it may be deleted. Regards Stiggy

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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One question or maybe advice, do you address the appalling cabin space in the original design or is that left as standard? It's just that Mazda (and thus you with your re-body) must lose so many sales because of the cars lack of ability to accommodate drivers greater in stature than about 6'3".

seansverige

719 posts

183 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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rhinochopig said:
One question or maybe advice, do you address the appalling cabin space in the original design or is that left as standard? It's just that Mazda (and thus you with your re-body) must lose so many sales because of the cars lack of ability to accommodate drivers greater in stature than about 6'3".
You've just given Stiggy his first variant - Zagato / Abarth inspired 'double bubble' roof...

seansverige

719 posts

183 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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stig mills said:
Primer is on, just not sure on colour, red or white. I love bright red cars but white is the new silver, or so I am told.
White is very now, especially on black wheels (and sometimes blacked out glasshouse) but doesn't work with everything so I'd say red is safer bet - especially for a small coupé. I'm sure you can persuade one of your customers to try white...

stig mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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The monocoque has to remain unmodified in this car as it is IVA exempt. Cabin space is increased overall but leg room remains the same. The Mazda seats are the problem, not the car, lots of aftermarket seats are availbale that will increase leg room.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Quite like that looking at the low res pics on Totalkitcar website this morning.
Is the rear treatment to be flying buttress like an Elise or with a sloping panel/screen more like an Exige?

stig mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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We are including a polycarb/acrylic rear window in the kit. It is not the small verticle type, more Aston V8 Vantage stylee. More room in the back. Could be made into an opening rear window with glass type hinges.

paulpsz008

463 posts

209 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Have you weighed it yet stiggy?
Any increase or decrease over the mx5?

stiggy mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Hi, I didn't weigh the car but did weigh the items we removed/added. It saves about 60kgs saving.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Could the roof section on it's own be fitted to an otherwise unmodified MX5 shell. Always throught an MX5 fastback coupe would be nice, though there was a limited edition coupe in the japanese market.

paulpsz008

463 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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guy_spyder550 said:
Could the roof section on it's own be fitted to an otherwise unmodified MX5 shell. Always throught an MX5 fastback coupe would be nice, though there was a limited edition coupe in the japanese market.
I had the same thought.
Either way he's sold the idea to me enough for me to make the trip to Newark on Saturday. Hope your on commission Stiggy?