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gav dunn

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hi, thinking of selling my track car (retoga r1, very quick) its in very good condition. the only thing wrong is the gearbox (2nd gear) is noisy! from a selling point of view, what would or should i expect to knock of the selling price. the car comes with spares. (i do have a spare gearbox) thanks

rhinochopig

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86 months

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Depends on the damage to the box. Engine in to a specialist will be getting on for 500-900 quid depending on parts - drive in drive out. Make of that what you will.

Furyblade_Lee

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112 months

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Pop a gratuitus picture of it up please, fantastic little cars.

gav dunn

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261 posts

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i do have a gearbox to fit into the engine. still drove the car, 2nd gear is noisy compared to all other gears.

Yazza54

13,547 posts

69 months

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I take it that's an r1 engines retoga then? Tbh it's not a massive job to do the box. I wouldn't knock more than £500 off. Less if you aren't desperate to sell yet.

All depends whether the buyer can do the box themselves or have to pay someone else.
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gav dunn

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hi ryan,yes its a yamaha r1 engine. not in a rush to sell it. just wondering what a fair price would be to sell my retoga knowing it requires attention to the gearbox. (as mentioned,i have a spare gearbox)

gav dunn

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hi lee, cant seem to down load a picture of the car!! if you wouldnt mind, would you try for me. cheers

mikeveal

1,794 posts

138 months

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It'll cost a fair bit more than that to fix second gear in an R1.

It's a lot of work to get to the gearbox. You have to split the crankcase. Which means that the cams come off, then the head. From the other end, it's sump off, water pump out, oil pump out.
The generator needs to be removed, as does the clutch cover.

It's just spannering, nothing very complicated, but there are a scary number of parts to remove. You'll need to be happy retiming the cams (you really do have to take them off the head), retorquing the head bolts and happy exposing the bottom end bearings.

It's about £350 for parts (new gaskets, yamabond and O-rings) just to put the engine back together. If you know what you're doing it'll take ~3 or 4 hours to disassemble (it took me twice that). I assume assembly will be 4 to 5 hours, but I haven't got that far yet.

Then of course you need to add the cost of fixing whatever is wrong with the gear box.

Finally you need to add a couple of hours to remove the engine from the car and a couple to put it back.

If you have gearbox trouble in an R1, it really is worth considering replacing the engine.

ETA. My local Yamaha bike garage wanted £600 + parts to do the job, assuming I delivered the engine to them already removed from the car. And that is why the engine is currently spread across my garage floor.

Edited by mikeveal on Tuesday 2nd October 12:55

gav dunn

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thanks for all that info. if i decide to get the work done before i sell the car, i would get mike smith tuning to do it. get him to replace the gearbox, and whilest apart inspect the engine and replace what ever is required.
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