Why don't kit car manufacturers............

Why don't kit car manufacturers............

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Jamesy1974

Original Poster:

15 posts

148 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Having followed the kit car industry for 15 years and building a Robin Hood 2B I find myself wanting to build something else. The problem is I find myself put off by current kit prices and regulation complexity plus I am not keen on the aesthetics of many cars on offer.

Like a lot of people, I have my ideas and would like to design my own creation but admit that I lack the skills involved to design and build an IVA compliant car.

As a different approach to kit car production, I would have thought that a company would recognise these customer issues and produce a universal chassis that would comply with regulations and take you up to rolling chassis stage. The customer would have to design it from there in the knowledge that structurally the car is safe and compliant.

The inspiration came from the MEV X5 superlight which simply uses an MX5 complete except a custom frame replaces the body tub and links the front and rear sub frames. I personally like the simplicity of this design but am not keen on the rest of the kit.

A partial chassis kit such as this designed with different bodywork styles in mind should be reasonably priced and appeal to 'want to be' car designers such as myself who want to create something that is unique but also tried and tested.



Steve_D

13,747 posts

258 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Just buy an MEV chassis (or some other make) and design your own body.

You will likely then find that the chassis only suits a limited range of design options....which is why a kit manufacturer is not able to offer a 'One size fits all' type chassis.

Even with your rolling chassis you will only have complied with, in my estimation, 10% of the regulation as most is in the detail of final fit and finish.

Steve

rdodger

1,088 posts

203 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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They kind of do.

Pretty much any 7 style chassis would do you for a front engine rear drive car.

My Thruxton GT is basically that. It would give you steering column mounts, seat belt mounts at the correct heights. Lights etc would need to be done at the correct heights for IVA.

There are manufacturers who will do you a bespoke body to your design.

Nikolai

283 posts

146 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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As Steve says, if you use someone else's chassis things end up in the wrong place or don't suit the design in your head. Unless you're lucky! A 7 chassis is a cheap starting point but has anyone ever managed something based on a 7 that doesn't look weird or a bit rubbish?

MEV did offer mid engine chassis years ago but don't think it was a popular thing.

ugg10

681 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Three examples of this are -

Raw Striker - Fulcrum
Tiger Avon - GTA
MK Indy - HSR

All started as sevenalikes but have had bodies added as a retro fit later in life.

Stuart Mills

1,208 posts

206 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Obviously I cannot mention price as I may get hung drawn and quartered but...
A Mevster chassis would fit your purpose I believe, for less than a bag of sand, and sand rhymes with ???

EddyP

846 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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There's nothing stopping you doing that, pretty much all the manufacturers sell their kits as packs, so you get to a rolling chassis stage before buying a body, then you don't have to buy a body.

All depends what type of car you want to build, do you want a seven type chassis, or do you want something more substantial and mid engined? there's so many options out there.

DRC72

651 posts

186 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Jamesy1974 said:
Having followed the kit car industry for 15 years and building a Robin Hood 2B I find myself wanting to build something else. The problem is I find myself put off by current kit prices and regulation complexity plus I am not keen on the aesthetics of many cars on offer.

Like a lot of people, I have my ideas and would like to design my own creation but admit that I lack the skills involved to design and build an IVA compliant car.

As a different approach to kit car production, I would have thought that a company would recognise these customer issues and produce a universal chassis that would comply with regulations and take you up to rolling chassis stage. The customer would have to design it from there in the knowledge that structurally the car is safe and compliant.

The inspiration came from the MEV X5 superlight which simply uses an MX5 complete except a custom frame replaces the body tub and links the front and rear sub frames. I personally like the simplicity of this design but am not keen on the rest of the kit.

A partial chassis kit such as this designed with different bodywork styles in mind should be reasonably priced and appeal to 'want to be' car designers such as myself who want to create something that is unique but also tried and tested.
Profitability and desirability stop kit manufacturers from doing what you are asking in your question. It would be a very limited market, too limited for most.

Jamesy1974

Original Poster:

15 posts

148 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Thanks for the advice. I am in the process of moving house at the moment but when I am sorted I might get it touch with Stuart of MEV as I like the sound of his 'bag of sand offer' and have always admired his work. After all if my plan fails I could always end up turning it into a Mevster!

Philipcooper

1 posts

120 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I have a complete 1966 Ford GT 40 set of moulds for sale Moulds are complete body including Dash (Oldschool) Front body, Rear Body, "Spider" (roof and windscreen section), Door Outer, Door Inner (textured finish) and Dashboard. Double nostril insert for front body. Doors and spider parts are also done but not assembled.
I am in South Africa.
My email ozonetreatment@gmail.com
What offers ?

Furyblade_Lee

4,107 posts

224 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Jamesy1974 said:
Having followed the kit car industry for 15 years and building a Robin Hood 2B I find myself wanting to build something else. The problem is I find myself put off by current kit prices and regulation complexity plus I am not keen on the aesthetics of many cars on offer.

Like a lot of people, I have my ideas and would like to design my own creation but admit that I lack the skills involved to design and build an IVA compliant car.

As a different approach to kit car production, I would have thought that a company would recognise these customer issues and produce a universal chassis that would comply with regulations and take you up to rolling chassis stage. The customer would have to design it from there in the knowledge that structurally the car is safe and compliant.

The inspiration came from the MEV X5 superlight which simply uses an MX5 complete except a custom frame replaces the body tub and links the front and rear sub frames. I personally like the simplicity of this design but am not keen on the rest of the kit.

A partial chassis kit such as this designed with different bodywork styles in mind should be reasonably priced and appeal to 'want to be' car designers such as myself who want to create something that is unique but also tried and tested.
Think you have sort of answered your own question there?