Motorcycle Engines with good Low end Torque ?
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Scooby Drew said:
My bike has the later version of this and I couldn't recommend it more highly - designed and built by Rotax and apparently bulletproof
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-APRILIA-RSV-MILLE-1...
Nice engine.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-APRILIA-RSV-MILLE-1...
Steffan said:
Now there is a Motor! I wrote on another thread recently that I was considering fitting a m/c engine (Hayabusa) into a Smart car which is a possible project I am looking at currently because my Quantum RS Turbo and Banham Sprite are finished and up for sale. Stuart Mills kindly pointed out (quite rightly) that he had driven such conversions and that the noise levels were awful.
Given his obvious first hand knowledge I am now looking for another vehicle base and currently the old Berkeley is rearing its head once more because noise would be much less of a problem. However drive train could be a challenge I am not using the heavy Mini subframes and drive. Needs a bit of thought but I can see a winter project in this somewhere! I am open to all suggestions from anyone interrsted in the subject and hopefully will be in funds again shortly if the kit cars sell. Got to spend the money on more kit cars otherwise SWMBO will snaffle it for a cruise!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdBKihL8zJI&list=UUL-fFF7BlFa30hP9AUc172wGiven his obvious first hand knowledge I am now looking for another vehicle base and currently the old Berkeley is rearing its head once more because noise would be much less of a problem. However drive train could be a challenge I am not using the heavy Mini subframes and drive. Needs a bit of thought but I can see a winter project in this somewhere! I am open to all suggestions from anyone interrsted in the subject and hopefully will be in funds again shortly if the kit cars sell. Got to spend the money on more kit cars otherwise SWMBO will snaffle it for a cruise!
The Tripod 1 testing a Suzuki Bandit engine......
Steffan said:
dom9 said:
My, this sounds like quite the engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VFR1200F
Always interested in these bike engine topics - I still want to do a very lightweight bike engined car at some point.
The 350kg electric car on the new page today suggests this is very do-able (assuming electric motors and battery weight a similar amount to a bike engine, cooling etc)!
Returning to the topic of this thread I find an all up weight of 350kgs pretty light for a three wheeler. How this has been achieved with an electric car I have no idea as electic cars tend to be heavy IME. Whatever method has been used it should be possible to use a lightweight all alloy m/c engine and drivetrain and significantly improve on the actual weight of that car. It would be interesting to compare the two. I would expect the petrol vehicle to be quicker (although electric cars can shift, for sort distances) have excellent fuel consumption, probably in excess of 70 mpg driven sensibly and a range of several hundred miles. That is why I am still very much a petrol head.Always interested in these bike engine topics - I still want to do a very lightweight bike engined car at some point.
The 350kg electric car on the new page today suggests this is very do-able (assuming electric motors and battery weight a similar amount to a bike engine, cooling etc)!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velorex
I would think that having a textile body instead of GRP does make a big difference....
Sway said:
I've posted on the three wheeler thread about my ideal commuter - that is it!
Please someone tell me it can be made UK Road legal relatively easily?
I guess it could, but I'm sure someonelse in the forum could be more specific.Please someone tell me it can be made UK Road legal relatively easily?
The price would be almost 21,000 Pounds....
http://drivescorpion.com/build-p6/
http://drivescorpion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/1...
http://www.motoriminarelli.it/pdf/xt660.pdf
Just rememebered the classic single cylinder used by Yamaha, Aprilia and a few others....
Just rememebered the classic single cylinder used by Yamaha, Aprilia and a few others....
Does anyone have first hand experience or info on the Yamaha Virago 535cc engines or later Dragstar 650cc ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XV535
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DragStar_650
I like the V-twin configuration and they're shaft-drive...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XV535
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DragStar_650
I like the V-twin configuration and they're shaft-drive...
Sway said:
I've ridden pillion on a Virago...
Not much I can say - seemed to have a great swell of torque, nice sound, smooth.
However, big caveats there! We didn't exactly stretch the limits!
One thought - as cruiser bikes have minimal lean capabilities, has the engine's oil system have the ability to cope with high cornering forces?
Thanks for the info..Not much I can say - seemed to have a great swell of torque, nice sound, smooth.
However, big caveats there! We didn't exactly stretch the limits!
One thought - as cruiser bikes have minimal lean capabilities, has the engine's oil system have the ability to cope with high cornering forces?
I was just wondering if it made for a good threewheeler engine donor instead of the classic Guzzi or Bmw option....
Sway said:
Don't see any barriers (assuming oil is OK) for a three wheeler, as said it's quite torquey, sounds great, assume reliable...
Does shaft drive limit rear design? Would you transfer the entire rear end or use a new swingarm/driveshaft?
I would try to use the entire rear end,.... but I'm still on the research phase and haven't decided yet on a specific engine, but love the shape and did read good things on the engine.Does shaft drive limit rear design? Would you transfer the entire rear end or use a new swingarm/driveshaft?
TheRealFingers99 said:
It's not a 3 wheeler, but I've always liked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O32mIJUwqRU&li...
I remember seen that and WOW! that engine is amazing in such a little car...but they're expensive in Italy .Berw said:
Now I wouldn't dream of having a bike engineed car, having a 410bhp Sylva, but I do have a vn 750kawasaki, very underrated bike, if you want a small, V it would be brilliant, 4plug so good power hydraulic tappers and shaft drive,
I didn't know of the Kawasaki VN 750cc and I agree with you that it does look really nice and thanks for the info...I also found another shaft drive motorcycle, the Honda VT 500cc, that is similar the the Kawasaki and Yamaha XV 535cc.
Ganzo said:
know you probably already know about Blackjack Zeros. The Guzzi coupled to a VW transmission is really a great design. The only draw back is cost. With doubling the weight from a bike I always think to go with the biggest engine possible. You'll need the HP and TQ. The above pictured is a 1100cc. It can cruise at 120Km. all day long. Guzzi may not be the fastest, but they work very well for light kit cars. The Blackjack Zero isn't the cheapest project, but when the job was done the smile is still on my face. I don't like compromising. For more info see Blackjack Zero on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blackjack-Zero-Kit-...
Kurt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NT650
Anybody has experience with the Honda NTV 650cc engine ? is torquey enough for a light threewheeler ?
Anybody has experience with the Honda NTV 650cc engine ? is torquey enough for a light threewheeler ?
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