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hi all i just bought a part built kitcar its a ngtf i have all the previous receipts for the kit the donor cars v5 and some photos of the build it was a morris marina estate i have checked the registration number on the dvla system and it is still on there... the car looks to have been built to a high standard the engine of the donor car and rear axle and suspension steering have all been used it was part built over 10 years ago my question is will i still have to put it thru what seems to me to be a very expensive iva test to get it registered and if i do will i be able to retain the original registration number
You will not be able to retain the original registration but you will have a good chance of gaining an age related plate i.e. same reg year as the donor but a different number, so long as the engine number is the same as that on the donor V5 and you have enough point from the other parts to qualify but engine, gearbox, front are axles and brake will definitely do it as far as I know.
However, that car was designed well before IVA and possibly before SVA so it is worth downloading the IVA manual and going through the car to make sure it complies with light placement, seat belt position and anchors, e marked glass and lights, bolt covers etc. and especially corner radii otherwise you may end up with a very long list of fixes to do after the expensive IVA and a re-test.
Hope that helps.
However, that car was designed well before IVA and possibly before SVA so it is worth downloading the IVA manual and going through the car to make sure it complies with light placement, seat belt position and anchors, e marked glass and lights, bolt covers etc. and especially corner radii otherwise you may end up with a very long list of fixes to do after the expensive IVA and a re-test.
Hope that helps.
Unless it's built on the original unaltered chassis/floor-pan any kitcar has to go through IVA before registration. How long ago the build was started has no relevance, though as Ugg said some requirements of IVA may not have been taken into account when it was designed. If it's a part built it's probably best to make out you've built it all as there have been cases were people have had difficulties at IVA application; They like to be sure it's an amateur build.
If you've got the documantation for the donor and the parts you say used, then you be able to get an age related reg. Thats one from the same year as the original, NOT the same reg'.
If you've got the documantation for the donor and the parts you say used, then you be able to get an age related reg. Thats one from the same year as the original, NOT the same reg'.
AdiT said:
.....If it's a part built it's probably best to make out you've built it all as there have been cases were people have had difficulties at IVA application; They like to be sure it's an amateur build.......
There is now a tick box on the application form to say you bought it as a part build. This should remove some of the issues they used to have.Having said that it is worth making sure you now start taking photos. These photos need to be 'scenic' rather than technical. VOSA are not interested in pics of your cross drilled discs or Sabelt seat belts they just need convincing you are building it yourself, at home, so car half out of a domestic garage, wheely bins, dogs, cats, small child behind the wheel etc.
You must download the IVA manual as there are many details your kit will not have been designed for. Position of side repeaters will be one and bumpers another on that car.
Owners club forum could be a good call as many before you will have been through all of this.
Steve
Definitely worth downloading a copy of the IVA manual. The NG TF is (IMHO) a lovely looking car, but it has been in production (by various manufacturers) for a long, long time!
It was around before SVA and the kit may well have been modified to meet these requirements. The kit may still be available today from Findhorn Cars (website is still active, but doesn't appear to have been updated for quite some time) and, if it is, they may have looked at what the car needs to pass IVA. It may be worth trying to contact them as well as the Owner's Club - they might have some very helpful knowledge to pass on!
It was around before SVA and the kit may well have been modified to meet these requirements. The kit may still be available today from Findhorn Cars (website is still active, but doesn't appear to have been updated for quite some time) and, if it is, they may have looked at what the car needs to pass IVA. It may be worth trying to contact them as well as the Owner's Club - they might have some very helpful knowledge to pass on!
if i remember rightly findhorn had done a lot of work for sva regs, eg seatbelt top mounts,so you should be ok if its one of theirs.your glass for the windscreen may be the only awkward part to source as it has to have the relevant "e" mark.
as said above,download the current (latest updates) iva manual and go through the relevant sections carefully.theres no reason why you shouldent have a very tidy and enjoyable car when its finished.
i think you should end up with an age related registration
as said above,download the current (latest updates) iva manual and go through the relevant sections carefully.theres no reason why you shouldent have a very tidy and enjoyable car when its finished.
i think you should end up with an age related registration
Edited by simon3000 on Monday 11th August 14:01
many thanks to you all for your replies and good advice... so unless i rebody it onto a onother chassis already registered i have to do the iva thing its not that i cant afford it i just think its very expensive just another way to get money into government coffers i will strip the car back and rebuild it anyway i have downloaded the iva manual had a quick read a lot of e marked stuff and radiused edges steering wheels with no holes in the spokes ??i think i may be struggling to get the classic look i was looking for..... at my age i thought things got a bit easier ???lol
realsteel said:
m i have downloaded the iva manual had a quick read a lot of e marked stuff and radiused edges steering wheels with no holes in the spokes ??i think i may be struggling to get the classic look i was looking for.....
You won't find many kit cars that retain all the SVA/IVA compliance modifications after the test has passed! Plenty of people have used the original donor steering wheel to pass the test.Mr2Mike said:
realsteel said:
m i have downloaded the iva manual had a quick read a lot of e marked stuff and radiused edges steering wheels with no holes in the spokes ??i think i may be struggling to get the classic look i was looking for.....
You won't find many kit cars that retain all the SVA/IVA compliance modifications after the test has passed! Plenty of people have used the original donor steering wheel to pass the test.
any pics?
the car has definately an own NG chassis...so no chance in retaining the old reg. date ...maybe an age related plate....but i think it will get a Q..
even those kits have been designed before SVA and long b4 IVA, this does not exempt from those tests, as you need to comply with the actual laws and regulations.
the car has definately an own NG chassis...so no chance in retaining the old reg. date ...maybe an age related plate....but i think it will get a Q..
even those kits have been designed before SVA and long b4 IVA, this does not exempt from those tests, as you need to comply with the actual laws and regulations.
LLantrisant said:
any pics?
the car has definately an own NG chassis...so no chance in retaining the old reg. date ...maybe an age related plate....but i think it will get a Q..
even those kits have been designed before SVA and long b4 IVA, this does not exempt from those tests, as you need to comply with the actual laws and regulations.
why would it get a q plate if he has all the right parts engine gearbox differential suspension and steering plus he can prove the engine numbers via the v5 i looked at the inf26 and cars built with lots of different parts from different cars will get a q plate the car has definately an own NG chassis...so no chance in retaining the old reg. date ...maybe an age related plate....but i think it will get a Q..
even those kits have been designed before SVA and long b4 IVA, this does not exempt from those tests, as you need to comply with the actual laws and regulations.
LLantrisant said:
because the chassis is manufactured by NG..
so many westfield or sylva kits around with 1 single donor (ford escort)..and most of them got a q-plate in the past....some say its not correct...some say, due to the chassis, its correct.
taken from inf26so many westfield or sylva kits around with 1 single donor (ford escort)..and most of them got a q-plate in the past....some say its not correct...some say, due to the chassis, its correct.
If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist
kit manufacturer (or an altered chassis or bodyshell
from an existing vehicle) is used with two original major
components from the donor vehicle, a replacement
registration number will be issued based on the age of the
donor vehicle. The vehicle must have IVA, SVA or MSVA.
The date of manufacture for the vehicle will be taken from
the IVA, SVA or MSVA certificate.
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