Registration year before of the build year?

[crosser]

Hi everybody.
I'm building my own road legal race car from scratch, and I saw that there are a lot of cars registered at the 80's like a classic cars.
Can somebody explain me how could I do it? I search a lot of documentation in a lot of places, but I don't find anything.
The car will be motorcycle engined, from a R1, hayabusa or something like that.

Thanks in advance

Guillermo

[Steve_D]

crosser said:

Hi everybody.
I'm building my own road legal race car from scratch, and I saw that there are a lot of cars registered at the 80's like a classic cars.
Can somebody explain me how could I do it? I search a lot of documentation in a lot of places, but I don't find anything.
The car will be motorcycle engined, from a R1, hayabusa or something like that.

Thanks in advance

Guillermo

If you build a car using all new parts it will be registered with the current years registration. If you registered it today it would get a '64' plate.
If you make the chassis yourself and use a second hand engine and other suspension parts it will get a 'Q' plate.
If you built it on say a Beetle or Triumph Herald chassis and you used enough of the original parts (there is a formula) then you can get a registration from the same registration year as the chassis.

I'm sispecting you will be on a 'Q' plate. (A vehicle of indeterminate age or origin).

Steve

[AdiT]

If you build with all new major parts (you're allowed just one reconditioned part) and have documents to prove, then you can be issued a new/current reg'.

If you build using enough parts from a donor car and have the registration documents/vin plates from the donor then you can be issued with an "age related" reg of the same year as the donor (not the donors original reg').

If you don't meet the requirements for either of those then you will be issued with a Q.

[crosser]

Thanks you Adit, this is the theme that I want to talk about:

how many parts I need from the donor, and what parts must be? There are any place where I can find some documentation about this?

Thanks you

Guillermo

[AdiT]

As I built my car from new parts, I can't give a deffinative answer... if there is one. There's much debate on the matter.

If you have a look over on http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/ and use the search function you should be overwhelmed with info'
There's lot's of guys on there that have done scratch builds (and plenty more who built from kits) so well worth joining. Very few questions don't get an answer.

[LLantrisant]

in the old times a kitcar could be built without following an sva / iva test.

you bought a kit and a ford escort, used all technical parts from the escort, finally you sent the original v5c from the escort to the dvla to change the body type..resulting in a "ford escort sports or convertible" with its orignal (ford)reg.-date on the v5c

than sva came and the dvla announced an amnesty period for such "old" kitcars, changing the make to the correct kit manufactuer retaining the old reg-date.

this means you got westfield or sylva with a reg-date from e.g. 1972..which is even earlier than those kitcar brands have been founded.

2nd possibilty, you often can see this with robinhood sevens:

single donor sierra, robin kit and due to taking a certain percentage of donor parts, you kept the number-plate and reg.date from the sierra, but the v5c was issued with the correct kit-manufacturer as "make", incl. an own (non-ford) chassis number or an dvla given chassisnumber starting with SABTVR...

today:

similar as above, the v5c is is issued with correct make, but you have 2 registration dates: "date of first registration 2014" and "date of first registration in Uk 1989"...thats called an age-related plate.

if built using new parts you will get a reg-date from the actual year e.g. 2014

last possibilty..used with body conversions, like sammio etc:

original triumph chassis is used and a differnt body fitted...the car gets an updated v5c using the orgiginal triumph chassis number together with the old reg-date, but body type and "make" will be changed to triumph-sammio, sammio or similar, body type sports or convertible.


q-plate cars are built from differnt donors and always get an actual reg-date

thats more or less a gross summary who it worked in the past and works today.

Edited by LLantrisant on Saturday 1st November 16:14

[PaulKemp]

DVLA build up inspection and registration documents allocate points to donor parts some gain more than others
If you are using a bike engine you can't claim engine or gearbox so rely on suspension, steering and part of the transmission train ( axle, diff etc) to claim enough points
The bike engine car fraternity on Locostbuilders will have the complete answerr

[mikeveal]

Steve_D said:

If you build a car using all new parts it will be registered with the current years registration. If you registered it today it would get a '64' plate.
If you make the chassis yourself and use a second hand engine and other suspension parts it will get a 'Q' plate.
If you built it on say a Beetle or Triumph Herald chassis and you used enough of the original parts (there is a formula) then you can get a registration from the same registration year as the chassis.

I'm sispecting you will be on a 'Q' plate. (A vehicle of indeterminate age or origin).

Steve

This ^^^.
With the addition of this VVV.

A year related plate can be re-registered (given a private plate) provided that the private plate is as old, or older than the original plate.

A Q plate can not be re-registered.