BMW Z3 with Ferrari 250 SWB kit
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Certainly better, possibly faster depending what engine it has, but it won't sound as good and I'd expect the 250's steering to be far more communicative, and those are the kinds of things that make a difference when you aren't exploiting the acceleration, grip and braking advantages.
It's the point at which those badges are added that for me the thing becomes ridiculous and the owners very sad.
Without any of the badges I think it's a good looking kit and a fun thing to do to an old, generic z3. Adding the badges instantly turns it into a figure of complete ridicule.
Without any of the badges I think it's a good looking kit and a fun thing to do to an old, generic z3. Adding the badges instantly turns it into a figure of complete ridicule.
badges you don't have to take, or you can take them of, those are not such 'problem' (for some)
I would also change simple bits in the interior, like the steering wheel and shift knob and handbrake lever and the seats, to give it an even more classic feel.
you could even go crazy and do a V8 conversion or even a v12, but then it gets a bit nose heavy, but it fits if you want, even BMW made a (one) V12 Z3 ;-)
then take all the intake stuff of and put some carburators on? but thats a bit 'crazy' I guess
original it seems to look a bit like this>
I would also change simple bits in the interior, like the steering wheel and shift knob and handbrake lever and the seats, to give it an even more classic feel.
you could even go crazy and do a V8 conversion or even a v12, but then it gets a bit nose heavy, but it fits if you want, even BMW made a (one) V12 Z3 ;-)
then take all the intake stuff of and put some carburators on? but thats a bit 'crazy' I guess
original it seems to look a bit like this>
GTRene said:
That looks great fun! I'd have it. I've been thinking wistfully of classic cars lately and love the look but don't fancy mucking about with keeping them going. You're all being a bunch of pansies complaining about badges and stuff. The badges are part of the aesthetic and these things look oddly blank without them. (Maybe someone could make up a shiny chrome animal badge that looks right from a distance but up close it's a parody rather than an actual prancing horse, perhaps a prancing goat)Look forward to seeing it finished.
As a way of building a fun car, from a cheap and readily available base car, I think it's great. As a supposed replica of an iconic Ferrari, I think it's pretty poor. The interior just doesn't work, let alone the styling issues with the body. I'd have one with BMW badges and an e39 M5's V8 though.
DonkeyApple said:
It's the point at which those badges are added that for me the thing becomes ridiculous and the owners very sad.
Without any of the badges I think it's a good looking kit and a fun thing to do to an old, generic z3. Adding the badges instantly turns it into a figure of complete ridicule.
I agree with this. It is NOT a Ferrari, so it shouldn't have a Ferrari badge. It's one stage further down the "driver is a wker" path than putting an M badge on a 320d.Without any of the badges I think it's a good looking kit and a fun thing to do to an old, generic z3. Adding the badges instantly turns it into a figure of complete ridicule.
I've looked at the website and if it translated properly looks like they want 11,000 Euros + a donor car. It doesn't say whether you get the old panels and roof back. If so, you could probably offset £2,000. You might be able to get one for £6500 + a donor car.
It's a shame that the M Roadster is getting to be so valuable, as that would be my donor of choice. I couldn't justify making a kit car out of something that is not cheap-as-chips to start with.
normalbloke said:
What are the legalities of building this and registering it? Does it fall into BIVA territory as technically( assuming the. Z3 IS monocoque based) it's falling foul of the 8 point debacle?
Doesnt the Z3 have all bolt on external panels including the rear quarters? or do I have the wrong BeemerEdited by saaby93 on Monday 4th May 15:15
pingu393 said:
Yes, they are all bolt on.
The Cobra kit is reasonable toohttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tribute-Automotive-KOBRA...
£2,450 + £1,500 donor
I rather like it. Echoing what everyone else is saying, it's a really beautiful tribute, but really dislike the fact it's all badged up. I'd much rather if it kept a soft top too, a bit of convertible fun, yes please. In a nice piano black or a "Eleanor grey" would be lovely. With a Nice "TT'es Mk1 1 Baseball glove style tan Interior would do me fine. Maybe side panels to make use of the original Z3 gills at the side too.
saaby93 said:
normalbloke said:
What are the legalities of building this and registering it? Does it fall into BIVA territory as technically( assuming the. Z3 IS monocoque based) it's falling foul of the 8 point debacle?
Doesnt the Z3 have all bolt on external panels including the rear quarters? or do I have the wrong BeemerEdited by saaby93 on Monday 4th May 15:15
A little vid I've just made to show how easy it is to do the panels on a Z3...
https://youtu.be/78LH6rRhSII
https://youtu.be/78LH6rRhSII
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