Dare/Ginetta G12

[jamesc]

It does not really compare with M/cycle engined cars. You compare the G12 with Lotus; it is a small GT40!

[airoom]

That is the coolest picture of a car crash that I've seen in a while.
PT, you should find out who has the rights to the photo, and then sell nice 11X14 piccies for those who want to frame car crashes and the like...

[fizz]

Dan Darez where are you?

[drd]

Great photo of the crashing G12. I wonder if LAT has a copy?
I have followed previous posts regarding a road test of the G12. I think it would be great if EVO (or Pistonheads) could do a track day test against the bike engined track cars, the Elise, the Caterham and the Westfield?
Does EVO ever lurk in Pistonheadsland?

[thurl]

That is the coolest photo I have ever seen What race was that from

[fish fried fred]

Oooch ow ow ow ow

That is no way to treat any G12 at any time!

[bermuda]

Awesome picture! Has Cottage Classics done the restoration work
?
I wish someone would do a comprehensive story regarding the G12--btw, I don't think of any Ginetta as being a kit car!
Anyone aware of roadgoing G12's?

[Mark B]

bermuda said:

I wish someone would do a comprehensive story regarding the G12--btw, I don't think of any Ginetta as being a kit car!

I think maybe you should as a lot of them are exactly that......
:runsandducksforcover:
Mark B

[Spyderman]

Boo Hoo!

Why can't I see this wonderful picture?

[thurl]

Go back a page in this forum! It's the kind of picture that should be framed in mye den!

[grahambell]

Mark B said:

bermuda said: I wish someone would do a comprehensive story regarding the G12--btw, I don't think of any Ginetta as being a kit car! I think maybe you should as a lot of them are exactly that...... :runsandducksforcover: Mark B

Not the Ginettas now made by DARE (G4 and G12) - only available as turnkey jobs these days. But as Mark B says, most of the others are. And what's wrong with that?

[Mark B]

grahambell said:

Mark B said: bermuda said: I wish someone would do a comprehensive story regarding the G12--btw, I don't think of any Ginetta as being a kit car! I think maybe you should as a lot of them are exactly that...... :runsandducksforcover: Mark B Not the Ginettas now made by DARE (G4 and G12) - only available as turnkey jobs these days. But as Mark B says, most of the others are. And what's wrong with that?

Totally agree what is wrong with it being a kit car?

[Derek Smith]

www.btinternet.com/~norcam/program.html

should know how to contact Derek Buckett

[dandarez]

Sorry only just read this. First thing to point out and not mentioned much: the G12 was Britain's first ever mid-engined GT. Press always list it as rear-engined but they would, wouldn't they - what do they know? Very little if they think it is rear-engined!). Derek's pic first appeared in book Ginetta - The Illustrated History in 1983, and 1988 (about to be reprinted December). It featured 3 pics of how the accident evolved. 2 G12s started it by going into a slide (that makes Autocar staffers attempts a sideways slides look futile!) with an Elan just getting out of the way. Then the pic in question shows the Cobra ploughing into and over Paul Ridgway's G12 (the dark shadow in foreground is well known photographer at the time, Gerry Stream, running for his life up the embankment. The 3rd pic in the series shows G12s everywhere and just how near Paul Ridgway was to being decapitated by the Cobra - it was that CLOSE! I can probably locate the main picture.
The G12 is a gorgeous car but like the G4 gets little publicity. Even the Elise pinched a bit of G12 - read John Tipler's Elise book!

[jpf]

If you could locate a copy of those 3 pictures, I would love to buy them!
Great photo!

[tprwi2]

The G12P developed by Richard Petit in the late 60's was a roadgoing G12, and very pretty too....as far as I know the original car is in Japan, there is another body chassis unit that went out to Japan recently, and at least one complete car in the USA. It was once marketed in the US as Lytning G12P by a company called Vopard but never took off (Sports Car Monthly Feb 86). The original body moulds are still in the UK.