How to get around Q plate?

How to get around Q plate?

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Locoblade

7,622 posts

256 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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grahambell said:

meeja said:



Graham! You suprise me!

A 55 plate on an old MG?!



Not really right I know, but the man seems set on it so just trying to help out.


I think he meant that its not possible to do it, you can only put an old plate on a newer car, you cant put a plate on a car that makes it appear newer than it actually is.

Avocet

800 posts

255 months

Saturday 17th September 2005
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The only way this is going to work is if you convince the DVLA that every single component is "new" and are prepared to back it up with receipts. The parts do NOT need to come from the same supplier. You are allowed ONE "major component" that has been reconditioned and you still get a "new" registration. Most people choose the engine as their one major component - that way, when you come to SVA it, you can still get through on emissions requirements appropriate to the age of the engine. As has been said, the DVLA tend not to look too closely at receipts for minor components like seats, trim, etc but it's still a bit of a risk.

Also, I don't think you'll be able to register it as an MG Midget (the DVLA know these are not currently in production!) so you'll have to think up another make and model!

You're taking a big risk on this one. As has been said, the only way to use your '55 plate is to convince them it is NEW. If you get it wrong, they will give you a "Q" plate and these can't be transferred so you'll be stuck with it forever.

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 18th September 2005
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KITT said:

What a great idea for a car I've always fancied sticking a modern lump into an old MG


Well, it would be great fun, but only with some seriously upgraded suspension and brakes. The Midgets front suspension with it's flimsy, bendy upper arm and stupid "fast wear" trunions was certainly a exercise in how not to build a decent suspension system.

Chuffer

1 posts

113 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Hello Everyone,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.

I have recently bought a Marcos GT, a car which I have dreamed about for years!

Unfortunately, it is on a Q-plate.

Having made several inquiries of fellow enthusiasts regarding these plates, I was on the point of resigning myself to having to live with it.

However, I got talking to a gentleman who had built his own special and kept it's "proper" registration.

Turns out this gentleman is a Barrister and he advised me to write to DVLA telling them that the Use of Q-plates on some vehicles, whilst other similar vehicles carry "normal" registrations is unacceptable, cannot be justified - and contravenes Section 14 of the Human Rights Act.

Whether I will get anywhere, I do not know - but I'm on the case!

It would certainly be helpful if those of you who have been stuck with a Q-plate also wrote to DVLA - pressure of numbers sometimes works.

I'm also going to copy-in the Minister of Transport and my local MP.

Let's see if we can get rid of these Q-plates and the stigma they carry.

All the Best!

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Human rights? rofl

"14: Prohibition of discrimination"

Get a grip man. What discrimination do you suffer from having a q plate?
I've never seen the stigma myself and am quite happy with mine. For one thing, it releases me from having to care about emissions tests ever again.

Oh, and I'd love to meet this fellow who got his plate changed.

AdiT

1,025 posts

157 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Nice first post, resurecting a 9year old thread, as well wink

Paul Drawmer

4,878 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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To those who know what they are doing, there's no stigma attached to a Q plate.

You could waste a lot of time and effort not getting rid of the Q plate, when you should be out driving the car for fun.

AdiT

1,025 posts

157 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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...and money, lining said barristers pocket.

Then if you win DVLA might just respond by stopping cars being registered at all using used parts. Thats the sort of twisted logic they use. You'll be about as welcome in kit car circles as a troll on a forum.

spyder dryver

1,329 posts

216 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Well, not only am I stigmatised by running a "Q" plated car but I am now nursing an aching ribcage following a sustained bout of uncontrolled laughter following my reading of your proposed plan. I thank you from the bottom of my diaphragm for brightening up an otherwise lacklustre afternoon.
When I get my breath back I'm off to the garage to administer a sound thrashing to my morally bankrupt and unworthy kit car, Basil Fawlty style!
As for your barrister he may be on to something. First it was PPI. Then whiplash claims and tripping up in the street. More recently medical negligence claims.
Now it's "Q" PLATE TRAUMA !
I can see the ads now...
That stupid effing dog with the crutch and bandages with that awful irritating squeaky voice that sounds like he swallowed a duck caller.
He'll be driving a Dutton down the street with a bag over his head whilst passers by throw rotten tomatoes, bad eggs and Justin Bieber cd's.
Brian Blessed will force him off the road in his private plated Range Rover while laughing his tits off!

I might start a claims company up myself to cash in. All you need is a good strapline.

"Fed up with your "Q" plate nightmare? Feeling like a worthless social outcast?

Call "PARIAH LINE". No Win, No Fee!

460dave

50 posts

196 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.


CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.

You poor bugger! You must get howls of derision wherever you go in that heap!
I feel for you, man.


(bloody nice car BTW! Looks perfect on those tyres as well. )

460dave

50 posts

196 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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CrutyRammers said:
460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.

You poor bugger! You must get howls of derision wherever you go in that heap!
I feel for you, man.


(bloody nice car BTW! Looks perfect on those tyres as well. )
Yes I feel so ashamed, sorry if it up sets anyone ;-)


Fake7

717 posts

199 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.

So ashamed you don't even display it in public wink

Steve_D

13,746 posts

258 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Fake7 said:
460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.

So ashamed you don't even display it in public wink
More importantly with the Q plate the car had to stay in the gravel carpark rather than display on the start/finish straight.

Steve

460dave

50 posts

196 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Steve_D said:
Fake7 said:
460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate
I will go and stand in the corner and mumble

Get a life and drive it and not worry about it.

So ashamed you don't even display it in public wink
More importantly with the Q plate the car had to stay in the gravel carpark rather than display on the start/finish straight.

Steve
I think if I remember right we got there late and the whole place was rammed, do you get a prize for the start finish straight? If I didn't I would feel violated, humanly of course ;-)

PaulKemp

979 posts

145 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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I dream of a Q plate, my SVA ( for it was so at the time) was so traumatic I suffered post traumatic IVA stress, still reeling from this I staggered to the local DVLA office hoping for a quick and painless Q plate but ohh no, not a hope
You need to supply folders of reciepts and photographs and then be grilled by Stasi trained DVLA staff who whilst waiting for the water boarding tank to slowly fill asked pointed and personal questions about my badly Forged documents, to add to the grilling the only photo of me working on the car was of my feet resting on the roll bar as I lay head in the footwell upside down gently floating away on the evostick fumes like a glue addict.
How I wished I had insisted on a Q
The pain carried on further into the day as a build up inspection was needed, the ex- Kremlin DVLA build up inspector roughly pulled on the elbow length rubber gloves and walked purposely to my rear, sorry the rear of my car.
In a matter of minutes the defiling was over but not the torture.
Several weeks before I could expect an age related plate.
I had to take 6 months of on full pay to get over this.
Q plate yes please.

crowfield

434 posts

158 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Well, I like my "Q" plate on my kit car - at least it is ageless. I have no wish to put a vanity plate on the car. And at least with the "Q" a lot of people have no idea what it is and they ask questions about it and the car

civicduty

1,857 posts

203 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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More importantly what happened to the S2000 engined MG Midget??

smash

2,062 posts

228 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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460dave said:
I'm gutted I have a lowly Q plate

You must be else why would you go to the trouble of removing it when showing your car...


Edited by smash on Monday 17th November 11:51

460dave

50 posts

196 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Its actually on there DH, it rattles around in the wind as clips have worn, it's as clear as day on the back, get a life