KITCAR DESIGN sketches/concepts year 2008-10
Discussion
this is my idea for a modern simple sportscar design ,that could be built by a kitcar manufacture, using a chassis similar in design to the to the Sylva r10t or the mev rocket.
Minimum fiberlass bodywork, with glass front windscreen, and side doors.
You would have weather protection , but in a moment it could still become an open seater by removing all the glass.
If i had the money, I would buy it...........
Minimum fiberlass bodywork, with glass front windscreen, and side doors.
You would have weather protection , but in a moment it could still become an open seater by removing all the glass.
If i had the money, I would buy it...........
Edited by fuoriserie on Friday 11th May 17:23
Zigs said:
If somebody makes something with the following components I think it will be fantastic:
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
Was thinking along the same lines Zigs. One 'niche' the kit car market is overlooking is a practical muscular front engined rear wheel drive sports car that isn't a copy of something from the 1960s. In fact Marcos seem to have been the only ones to have gone down that route with the Mantula.
Possible problem would be competing in the market with used TVRs - but if it looked good enough and had a potent, reliable LS engine...
Be nice to see what Italo could come up with for such a car.
grahambell said:
Zigs said:
If somebody makes something with the following components I think it will be fantastic:
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
Was thinking along the same lines Zigs. One 'niche' the kit car market is overlooking is a practical muscular front engined rear wheel drive sports car that isn't a copy of something from the 1960s. In fact Marcos seem to have been the only ones to have gone down that route with the Mantula.
Possible problem would be competing in the market with used TVRs - but if it looked good enough and had a potent, reliable LS engine...
Be nice to see what Italo could come up with for such a car.
Well it doesn't have a roof...but....
I have been working on my first design called the Veeteor LS/R for the last year and a half, and we're now just a couple of weeks away from finishing the bodywork. It's really exciting to make a real life size car, seeing it take shape at last really is satisfying!
It uses a Chevrolet LS1, 8 speed sequential gearbox based on a TCI Streetfighter 4L60E auto (3,500 rpm stall) and Gear Vendors overdrive, with paddle shift control (so it can be both manual and automatic). Diff is a Hydratrak unit, with AP Brakes and Caterham super quick steering rack. The idea is for it to be a street legal track day / fun car that can compete at a very high level in drag racing, circuit racing and top speed competition. The "triple threat" as they say! With the engine still stock and way under it's intended final spec, it went 11.4 in the quarter, just using the stock 4 ratios. That was with just 340bhp, we'll add another 150 with bigger FAST LSX intake and 90mm throttle body and then 200 more with nitrous. As the first and only prototype it has come in a little heavier than we planned, but not by much, we aimed for 850 kgs and its actually 916kg 54% front and 46% rear. Width is 2metres, length 4.3m. The whole thing has been designed around the tyres, using 18" diameter 295 section rears and 275 section fronts, placing the uprights and pivot centrally in the wheel, and having the wheels made to measure. It handles very well, and with 2 pedals, it's like a big go kart...
The shape isn't finished yet, still tweaking to do, and then we'll filler over the entire foam surface and sand it smooth so we can make the moulds to make the actual body panels.
Edited by JenkinsComp on Friday 11th May 21:20
Edited by JenkinsComp on Friday 11th May 21:24
Edited by JenkinsComp on Friday 11th May 21:27
JenkinsComp said:
grahambell said:
Zigs said:
If somebody makes something with the following components I think it will be fantastic:
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
Was thinking along the same lines Zigs. One 'niche' the kit car market is overlooking is a practical muscular front engined rear wheel drive sports car that isn't a copy of something from the 1960s. In fact Marcos seem to have been the only ones to have gone down that route with the Mantula.
Possible problem would be competing in the market with used TVRs - but if it looked good enough and had a potent, reliable LS engine...
Be nice to see what Italo could come up with for such a car.
The shape isn't finished yet, still tweaking to do, and then we'll filler over the entire foam surface and sand it smooth so we can make the moulds to make the actual body panels.
Chris, that looks like a great project, and will be looking forward to seeing the final car.
Could I use some of your posted chassis pictures to play with for a new shape? do you have more available pictures to post ?
Let me know if it's ok with you?
Italo
grahambell said:
Zigs said:
If somebody makes something with the following components I think it will be fantastic:
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
Was thinking along the same lines Zigs. One 'niche' the kit car market is overlooking is a practical muscular front engined rear wheel drive sports car that isn't a copy of something from the 1960s. In fact Marcos seem to have been the only ones to have gone down that route with the Mantula.
Possible problem would be competing in the market with used TVRs - but if it looked good enough and had a potent, reliable LS engine...
Be nice to see what Italo could come up with for such a car.
Graham,
Will try to see what i can come up with, but I would need an available kit chassis to base it on, to make the project realistic.
If Chris gives me his permission, maybe i could use his, or if anyone is using an LS engine on a similar chassis........
Edited by fuoriserie on Saturday 12th May 09:31
Hey Italo!
What do you make of this model which was shown on the Compete Kit Car stand at Stoneleigh.
It's a final year design student model by a guy named Garry Gooderham. The idea is that it was designed around a Locost chassis as an alternative to the traditional Seven bodywork.....
What do you make of this model which was shown on the Compete Kit Car stand at Stoneleigh.
It's a final year design student model by a guy named Garry Gooderham. The idea is that it was designed around a Locost chassis as an alternative to the traditional Seven bodywork.....
fuoriserie said:
JenkinsComp said:
grahambell said:
Zigs said:
If somebody makes something with the following components I think it will be fantastic:
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
1/ Roof
2/ 350+ bhp V8 (i.e. 350 chev or beeega!)
3/ Doesn't look like manga cartoon
4/ Think next-gen Cerb... mmmm
Zigs
Was thinking along the same lines Zigs. One 'niche' the kit car market is overlooking is a practical muscular front engined rear wheel drive sports car that isn't a copy of something from the 1960s. In fact Marcos seem to have been the only ones to have gone down that route with the Mantula.
Possible problem would be competing in the market with used TVRs - but if it looked good enough and had a potent, reliable LS engine...
Be nice to see what Italo could come up with for such a car.
The shape isn't finished yet, still tweaking to do, and then we'll filler over the entire foam surface and sand it smooth so we can make the moulds to make the actual body panels.
Chris, that looks like a great project, and will be looking forward to seeing the final car.
Could I use some of your posted chassis pictures to play with for a new shape? do you have more available pictures to post ?
Let me know if it's ok with you?
Italo
Of course, go right ahead! Your quick sketches are cool, see what you can do. Bear in mind we will use the headlights from a Fiat Grande Punto, the Maserati like ones. Rear lights will be Fiat Brava triple straight ones. Next week it'll look much more complete so I'll post more then.
We did think that it would be cool to have a more 60s style body for a road version, but with modern touches like wheels and lights etc, perhaps looking like something like the Cheetah (Chevy powered Cobra rival). I know where to get those bodies as I have helped import some Cobra Daytonas from the same firm, but they are too narrow/short to fit on my chassis.
Elfins MS8 Streamliner has a sort of weird hardtop not dissimilar to that little blue model shown above, I find that 7 type layouts often cause the roofline to have to drop away top quickly to make a successful shape. Really the rear body needs to extend further so that the line from the rear rollcage down the the tail is shallower and more pleasant to the eye, or my eye anyway.
Elfins MS8 Streamliner has a sort of weird hardtop not dissimilar to that little blue model shown above, I find that 7 type layouts often cause the roofline to have to drop away top quickly to make a successful shape. Really the rear body needs to extend further so that the line from the rear rollcage down the the tail is shallower and more pleasant to the eye, or my eye anyway.
Edited by JenkinsComp on Saturday 12th May 10:23
ferg said:
Hey Italo!
What do you make of this model which was shown on the Compete Kit Car stand at Stoneleigh.
It's a final year design student model by a guy named Garry Gooderham. The idea is that it was designed around a Locost chassis as an alternative to the traditional Seven bodywork.....
What do you make of this model which was shown on the Compete Kit Car stand at Stoneleigh.
It's a final year design student model by a guy named Garry Gooderham. The idea is that it was designed around a Locost chassis as an alternative to the traditional Seven bodywork.....
Ferg,
That is an excellent design, and i think he has done a great job over the Locost chassis., my congratulations to him !,
I think this is the type of new designs that the industry, should be considering in the future, instead of turning out the same old seven clone!! Invest in the future, and have the courage to brake with the past.........
I hope he gets a chance to build it.
[quote=J
Of course, go right ahead! Your quick sketches are cool, see what you can do. Bear in mind we will use the headlights from a Fiat Grande Punto, the Maserati like ones. Rear lights will be Fiat Brava triple straight ones. Next week it'll look much more complete so I'll post more then.[/quote]
Chris, thanks for the permission, and will try to sketch a few quick 5min. roughs, like always lately...
I like the cheetah idea with a longer tail.........
Of course, go right ahead! Your quick sketches are cool, see what you can do. Bear in mind we will use the headlights from a Fiat Grande Punto, the Maserati like ones. Rear lights will be Fiat Brava triple straight ones. Next week it'll look much more complete so I'll post more then.[/quote]
Chris, thanks for the permission, and will try to sketch a few quick 5min. roughs, like always lately...
I like the cheetah idea with a longer tail.........
fuoriserie said:
Graham,
Will try to see what i can come up with, but I would need an available kit chassis to base it on, to make the project realistic.
Lots of Cobra replica chassis about...
Including the Python of course, which I mention because it's 2" longer than standard to provide bigger doors. Also Sebring's Healey replica chassis.
Then there's a car (can't remember the name) Autotune debuted a couple of years back as a sort of convertible sports GT using Sierra parts, which was another case of nice concept, shame about the styling.
You never know Italo, they might actually be interested in a better looking design as they seem to have given up on the one they had judging by the fact they're no longer showing the car on their stand.
grahambell said:
fuoriserie said:
Graham,
Will try to see what i can come up with, but I would need an available kit chassis to base it on, to make the project realistic.
Lots of Cobra replica chassis about...
Including the Python of course, which I mention because it's 2" longer than standard to provide bigger doors. Also Sebring's Healey replica chassis.
Then there's a car (can't remember the name) Autotune debuted a couple of years back as a sort of convertible sports GT using Sierra parts, which was another case of nice concept, shame about the styling.
You never know Italo, they might actually be interested in a better looking design as they seem to have given up on the one they had judging by the fact they're no longer showing the car on their stand.
Checked those manafacturers but no chassi pistures, will try with Cobra kit chassis, but in the meantime i found this very interesting chassis.
Check this out:
www.dragonmotorcars.com/frameALU.html
and for pictures of their kit:
www.dragonmotorcars.com/
Very interesting sportscar.
Joe T said:
Apologies for thread drift, noticed a front end under a tailgate in the backgoraund of this picture.
Reminded me of a Lola 3B front end, is it?
You can mail me if you would prefer.
Cheers
Joe
Reminded me of a Lola 3B front end, is it?
You can mail me if you would prefer.
Cheers
Joe
Edited by Joe T on Saturday 12th May 19:39
Like your anorak spotting qualities, close but not quite though. It's from a Radical 1300
Gassing Station | Kit Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff