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briSk

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226 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

at risk of getting told-off for a cross-posting... i thought this may be of interest..!

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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briSk said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

at risk of getting told-off for a cross-posting... i thought this may be of interest..!
we did mention something similar on the kitcar design thread, but I like to think that future kitcars could become more interesting, and fill a niche with alternative powerplants.

Different engines, from the most frugal, to alternative powered ones, electric/hybrid and so on.

A modern 1.0L.engine on a light locost seven chassis could give pretty good gas mileage, and still be fun.

Aerodynamics would start to interfere over 80mph though.......biggrin

Better aerodynamics on that chassis could improve greatly the outcome, but you could also consider a mid-engine setups.



Edited by fuoriserie on Wednesday 9th January 13:15

Sam_68

9,939 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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fuoriserie said:
Aerodynamics would start to interfere over 80mph though.......biggrin

Better aerodynamics on that chassis could improve greatly the outcome, but you could also consider a mid-engine setups.
Something like the Westfield Eleven would definitely be the way to go (preferably in 'single seat' form). The original Lotus Eleven was recorded at 132mph using an 1100cc engine of about 100bhp back in the 1950's, though I suspect the fuel economy wasn't up to much, on carburettors!

Joe T

487 posts

224 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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In 2005 the 1.4 K Series in the Costin Roadster achieved 108 miles on 10 litres of fuel, this was a mixture of driving styles on motorways A and B roads.
The 1.4 K series is a good little engine for these type of projects. Plenty of them about as well. It produced about 90 BHP on the rolling road. Car weighed in at 550kgs.

I think more kit cars will start to look at the Aero aspect of the design, also getting the weight down requires quite a bit of work.


Sam_68

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Wednesday 9th January 2008
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Joe T said:
...1.4 K Series in the Costin Roadster achieved 108 miles on 10 litres of fuel, this was a mixture of driving styles on motorways A and B roads.
Not bad, but not quite 50mpg? That's only a little better than I used to get with my carburettored Mini (which was thrashed mercilessly, wherever it went) or, indeed, the huge, comfy Toyota Avensis Diesel I had as a company car a couple of years ago. We ought to be able to do better than that! frown

To be fair, the open cockpit on the Costin will completely wreck the aerodynamics, no matter how smooth the rest of the shell is! It needs a bubble fairing for the driver and a rigid tonneau to cover the passenger space...