GTM Libra Restyling Concept

GTM Libra Restyling Concept

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fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Quite a few of you guys here asked on a restyling project for the Libra, and it would have looked like, so here is one of the many alternative sketches I did based on the Libra chassis.

I used the Spyder chassis because it gave me more freedom with the roofline, but it should work also with the coupe.........




Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 8th December 15:06

fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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The rear sketch......



Chris71

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Monday 8th December 2008
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I think it looks a tiny bit Smart Roadster at the back in the first sketch. I like it - the original Libra is quite a hard act to follow.

tomTVR

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241 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I like it, possibly a tiny bit over-wheeled. Its a shame the current Libra is so ugly beacuse otherwise it would be the ideal kit car.

fuoriserie

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Chris71 said:
I think it looks a tiny bit Smart Roadster at the back in the first sketch. I like it - the original Libra is quite a hard act to follow.
I agree with you, the original is a tough act to follow........but this is only one of the may sketches I have.......will post the others later.

fuoriserie

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tomTVR said:
I like it, possibly a tiny bit over-wheeled.
I did that on porpouse, I wanted to make the sketch look more dynamic ....smile

Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 8th December 15:10

Chris71

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Also more than a hint of Lamborghini about it in places...

Beyond that, the first thing that strikes me is that it has a very short overhang at the back. It makes for an dramatic silhouette, but do you need that area for anything? Aerodynamic considerations? Crash protection? Luggage space? Just a thought (I'm trying to be more constructive than in my previous comments smile)

Looks good though!

fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Chris71 said:
Also more than a hint of Lamborghini about it in places...

Beyond that, the first thing that strikes me is that it has a very short overhang at the back. It makes for an dramatic silhouette, but do you need that area for anything? Aerodynamic considerations? Crash protection? Luggage space? Just a thought (I'm trying to be more constructive than in my previous comments smile)

Looks good though!
In realty I've always designed cars with very short overhangs, and have being doing so since the early 90's...

I just think that we need more compact sportscars in the future, but this sketch is an exact overlay of a GTM picture, so it would keep the original luggage space.

Italo

Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 8th December 15:35

Chris71

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Cool. Just wondered if there was a particular philosophy behind it or if it was for aesthetics.

rdodger

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Monday 8th December 2008
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tomTVR said:
I like it, possibly a tiny bit over-wheeled. Its a shame the current Libra is so ugly beacuse otherwise it would be the ideal kit car.
How dare you! eek

Is there a better looking original design Kit car?

Ferg

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257 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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tomTVR said:
Its a shame the current Libra is so ugly
..says the man who apparently wants a Z4.

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Snapper7

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Monday 8th December 2008
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I have to say that I don't like the new designs.

I think that there is a big market for a retro style coupe car that take in a mix of the Ginetta G4, the Opel GT (Especially the rear) and the Lotus Elite. Small, light weight and quick with a 150-200bhp ford unit. A boot that will allow you to take enough stuff to tour for a week in Europe. Priced at upto £ 20k built

fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Snapper7 said:
I have to say that I don't like the new designs.

I think that there is a big market for a retro style coupe car that take in a mix of the Ginetta G4, the Opel GT (Especially the rear) and the Lotus Elite. Small, light weight and quick with a 150-200bhp ford unit. A boot that will allow you to take enough stuff to tour for a week in Europe. Priced at upto £ 20k built
I also have a design with your parameters in mind, but GTM doesn't have at the moment a similar chassis to work with.

I think a similar car exhists, and that is the Mx5.....or the classic Ginetta G20...

Ferg

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Monday 8th December 2008
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Snapper7 said:
I think that there is a big market for a retro style coupe car that take in a mix of the Ginetta G4, the Opel GT (Especially the rear) and the Lotus Elite. Small, light weight and quick with a 150-200bhp ford unit. A boot that will allow you to take enough stuff to tour for a week in Europe. Priced at upto £ 20k built
But they are all front engined cars, Snapper.
Such a GTM simply wouldn't be a GTM anymore. The Libra doesn't do badly in space efficiency and maybe might benefit from a slight size increase to make it a true GT.


FlossyThePig

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243 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I know you like it, Italo, but have you put a touch of Midas in the rear wheelarch/three quarters area.

Or am I mistaken?

fuoriserie

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FlossyThePig said:
I know you like it, Italo, but have you put a touch of Midas in the rear wheelarch/three quarters area.

Or am I mistaken?
I actually did, in fact that was my idea to take the shape of the classic Midas and update it over the GTM Libra chassis.......

But this was only one of the sketches, I have lots more to show......smile

Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 8th December 19:12

ajprice

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196 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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FlossyThePig said:
I know you like it, Italo, but have you put a touch of Midas in the rear wheelarch/three quarters area.

Or am I mistaken?
A bit of high backed Gold Coupe? Yep I like that too, I think that because the rear end is so short and small it has to have a high rear like that, similar to a Gold, Smart Roadster-Coupe or original Honda CRX.

root 666

316 posts

185 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Are those mk1 Cortina back lights?

Now,they really are design classics.

Lovely looking car but clearly no room for my zimmer.

fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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these are my other design proposals for the libra chassis, but it needed more alterations to the original, but the dimensions are libra spyder.......



fuoriserie

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Monday 8th December 2008
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the side view proposal rough sketch.......with steeply raked new windscreen....smile




Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 8th December 21:37