Three wheeler Cabin Scooter Design

[fuoriserie]

i was playing around with a few ideas this weekend, over a modern cabin scooter 3 wheeler.

A lowcost single seater, with a scooter engine, or electric drive or hybrid, if Piaggio supplied me their engine.....

A rough sketch of my idea,with a sliding and pivoting door to enter the scooter.

What do you guys think ? are we going to see something similar in the future of our city centers?

Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 2nd February 11:38

[mrmaggit]

3 wheeled Smart?

[fuoriserie]

mrmaggit said:

3 wheeled Smart?

I was actually going a lot smaller, a 2mt. length, 1.2mt. width and height, and single seater.

[Fer]

fuoriserie said:

mrmaggit said:

3 wheeled Smart?

I was actually going a lot smaller, a 2mt. length, 1.2mt. width and height, and single seater.

Like a full bodied e-trike?

[fuoriserie]

Fer said:

fuoriserie said:

mrmaggit said:

3 wheeled Smart?

I was actually going a lot smaller, a 2mt. length, 1.2mt. width and height, and single seater.

Like a full bodied e-trike?

Yep.....that chassis could fit the dimensions well...

Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 2nd February 11:55

[FEZZA_RS]

Sinclair C5?

[fuoriserie]

FEZZA_RS said:

Sinclair C5?

the sinclair is tiny in comparison.......

[stig mills]

That is very cool. The future for commute vehicles? I love the novel but practical roof/door. It needs a name for that door, like "roll door" or "armadillo door" as apposed to swan wing! Maybe the body above the rear wheel should flow to match the door opening line. Regards Stuart

Edited by stig mills on Monday 2nd February 13:27

[fuoriserie]

stig mills said:

That is very cool. The future for commute vehicles? I love the novel but practical roof/door. It needs a name for that door, like "roll door" or "armadillo door" as apposed to swan wing! Maybe the body above the rear wheel should flow to match the door opening line. Regards Stuart

Edited by stig mills on Monday 2nd February 13:27

Thanks Stuart....just playing with shapes, but roll door could be an idea.....but it's not mine, but of this very inventive guy, who built the Moonbeam, a lowcost threewheeler:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6omtd/jorysquibb/id20...

I just used his idea for the opening , in a different design......I like the idea very much, and it would make economic sense if manufactured.

Cheers
Italo

[911hillclimber]

I think you are spot-on with the single seater trike for the commute/shopping.
The Smart car is really almost there, but the gearchange is truely rediculously slow. A 'twist-n-go' of the modern scooter is ideal for the simple hassle free-traffic run, but a two speed 'high' or 'low' design would be ideal for the A road runs?

The trick is to have a design that does not make people feel silly stuck in traffic. The C5 was silly, and so many other attempts are too radical.
The Smart was not well recieved in the UK compared to main land Europe; bit too much for our tastes?

Maybe you need to 'calm' your great shape a touch to be more conservative?

Getting out of a vehicle in the event of a small or major crunch must be addressed. In doing that I think you can have a very easy access to the car. The Smart does this very well.

Indeed, a Smart with a manual box would be very good for many uses of Joe Public in my opinion.

Graham.

Edited by 911hillclimber on Monday 2nd February 22:31

[qdos]

My Immediate thought was the moonbeam too



I have to say, it is a neat simple solution to roof and doors in one hit

Edited by qdos on Monday 2nd February 22:55

[Fer]

I think it would need a cut out at the back of the roof, so you could drive with the roof open in the summer, otherwise it would be like driving a green house.

[fuoriserie]

qdos said:

My Immediate thought was the moonbeam too



I have to say, it is a neat simple solution to roof and doors in one hit

Edited by qdos on Monday 2nd February 22:55

I agree with you.......

[fuoriserie]

Fer said:

I think it would need a cut out at the back of the roof, so you could drive with the roof open in the summer, otherwise it would be like driving a green house.

A good idea...

[fuoriserie]

911hillclimber said:

I think you are spot-on with the single seater trike for the commute/shopping.
The Smart car is really almost there, but the gearchange is truely rediculously slow. A 'twist-n-go' of the modern scooter is ideal for the simple hassle free-traffic run, but a two speed 'high' or 'low' design would be ideal for the A road runs?

The trick is to have a design that does not make people feel silly stuck in traffic. The C5 was silly, and so many other attempts are too radical.
The Smart was not well recieved in the UK compared to main land Europe; bit too much for our tastes?

Maybe you need to 'calm' your great shape a touch to be more conservative?

Getting out of a vehicle in the event of a small or major crunch must be addressed. In doing that I think you can have a very easy access to the car. The Smart does this very well.

Indeed, a Smart with a manual box would be very good for many uses of Joe Public in my opinion.

Graham.

Edited by 911hillclimber on Monday 2nd February 22:31

Thanks for the comments, and I agree on the single seater solution.

If the design went further, but at the moment it's still just a rough sketch, you would have to address the issues you poined out..

Cheers
Italo

Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 3rd February 09:28

[ajprice]

I like that design Italo . You said its smaller than a Smart, would it be about the same size as Gordon Murray's T25 city car design? That car hasn't been shown fully, but here is a picture of a model next to a Smart and a new Mini


The trike design reminds me of a tiny version of the Aptera aero economy car. Maybe a design could work with aero wheel covers and the rear tapering to an edge like that car?

[fuoriserie]

ajprice said:

I like that design Italo . You said its smaller than a Smart, would it be about the same size as Gordon Murray's T25 city car design? That car hasn't been shown fully, but here is a picture of a model next to a Smart and a new Mini


The trike design reminds me of a tiny version of the Aptera aero economy car. Maybe a design could work with aero wheel covers and the rear tapering to an edge like that car?

Hi Adrian, I was thinking along the lines of a slightly longer Mev Etrike, maybe 2metres long ?

I like your idea of the Aptera, will see if i can incorporate the idea in a new sketch...


cheers mate

Italo

Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 3rd February 16:13

[fuoriserie]

a new rough sketch.........with imput ideas from ajprice, and have to say that, I really like it.....

Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 3rd February 17:31

[911hillclimber]

Agree, looks great, and would be easy to fabricate close to the shape. 'glass' would be hard to do as a proto.
I'm sure there must be some similar shape you can take off a good glider canopy?

Simple cross beam front axle with sliding pillar front suspension keeps the front fenders close to the tyre.

Rear mounted twist and go engine from a big scooter gives a very integrated power pack and reliable drive train.(and the right size of rear wheel)

Fronts off the same scooter with discs and dampers etc?

Would be very tempted to do it except for my racing sports mid engined car under construction!
Chassis could be along the Atom principles of a stout frame and lighter tubes to take a plastic bubble body cover construction. This gives the driver a very good rollcage almost all around him.

Air conditioning a must?
Cleaning the windscreen a challenge?
The dreaded reverse gear??

Edited by 911hillclimber on Tuesday 3rd February 18:41

[ajprice]

That looks great Italo . Looking at the new drawing, a glider canopy could be a good way of getting the glass, like 911hillclimber says. Maybe the screen and front canopy from a Vindicator F4, but this might be too big for a little car like this .

http://www.vindicator.co.uk/pages/news.htm