IVA manual/info
Discussion
Hi Martin, I've just rejoined this forum (after several years of doing other things). I have bought and finished an abandoned westfield pre-lit (bought originally in 1988!) and got it through the IVA in April after a bit of work.
If yours is a newer version it should get through ok, mine I altered quite a bit had it fail and then took it back (was congratulated by both VOSA reps and the chap at the IVA station so was rather proud). The IVA manual has a good checklist down the right hand side, the trick is to tick every box and when you go for the IVA test take a pen and write notes as they are going through it. Another trick I did was take it to a garage before the test and asked for them to go through a mock MOT (cost the same as an MOT but you get just verbal comments back) its a lot cheaper than an IVA and it lets you know if there are any fundamental problems (mine had none but a second eye never harms). Finally at the test be nice and friendly the chap that did mine was very good was able to tell me what was wrong and needed doing, get mad later at the stupid rules eg mine failed on my instruments being 0.6 mm too proud (they were 3.8mm instead of 3.2mm) as well as some other things.
Its probably too late by now as your car is now most likely on the road but if not reply and I can go through things that need watching/checking prior to the test.
Paul
If yours is a newer version it should get through ok, mine I altered quite a bit had it fail and then took it back (was congratulated by both VOSA reps and the chap at the IVA station so was rather proud). The IVA manual has a good checklist down the right hand side, the trick is to tick every box and when you go for the IVA test take a pen and write notes as they are going through it. Another trick I did was take it to a garage before the test and asked for them to go through a mock MOT (cost the same as an MOT but you get just verbal comments back) its a lot cheaper than an IVA and it lets you know if there are any fundamental problems (mine had none but a second eye never harms). Finally at the test be nice and friendly the chap that did mine was very good was able to tell me what was wrong and needed doing, get mad later at the stupid rules eg mine failed on my instruments being 0.6 mm too proud (they were 3.8mm instead of 3.2mm) as well as some other things.
Its probably too late by now as your car is now most likely on the road but if not reply and I can go through things that need watching/checking prior to the test.
Paul
New version out
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124...
Sorry, haven't checked to see what the differences are.
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124...
Sorry, haven't checked to see what the differences are.
Sam_68 said:
Fastdruid said:
Sorry, haven't checked to see what the differences are.
At risk of stating the obvious, the changes are listed under the section at the front, titled 'version control and release notes'.Examples being things like "changed the dimensions in diagram one from mm to m"
Great, what's diagram one and what does it refer to.
There is now a new web site.
Follow this link to the IVA page then select the download for M1 vehicles.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...
Enjoy
Steve
Follow this link to the IVA page then select the download for M1 vehicles.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...
Enjoy
Steve
A new version has been issued today.
One point that has changed that may cause issue is in section 18 Statutory Plates page 145, here you will see note 12 has been added. Previously VIN plates need to be "not easily removable" now any separate plate must be fully seam welded to comply.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20I...
I am informed that IVA inspectors were instructed to fail cars with VIN plates that were not fully seam welded on the 19th December 2012 but the manual informing builders/manufacturers of this change has only been issued today. I have asked for a grace period but that was refused.
One point that has changed that may cause issue is in section 18 Statutory Plates page 145, here you will see note 12 has been added. Previously VIN plates need to be "not easily removable" now any separate plate must be fully seam welded to comply.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20I...
I am informed that IVA inspectors were instructed to fail cars with VIN plates that were not fully seam welded on the 19th December 2012 but the manual informing builders/manufacturers of this change has only been issued today. I have asked for a grace period but that was refused.
Stuart Mills said:
A new version has been issued today.
One point that has changed that may cause issue is in section 18 Statutory Plates page 145, here you will see note 12 has been added. Previously VIN plates need to be "not easily removable" now any separate plate must be fully seam welded to comply.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20I...
I am informed that IVA inspectors were instructed to fail cars with VIN plates that were not fully seam welded on the 19th December 2012 but the manual informing builders/manufacturers of this change has only been issued today. I have asked for a grace period but that was refused.
Seems always that these rules cause problems for the honest, and don't always give the dishonest too much grief (anyone fraudulent in future will, I suspect just put a new chassis tube in place with 'new' VIN. Anyway, it seems strange that note4 is still there. I guess the easiest way to comply is to just stamp the chassis number directly onto a chassis tube - does this mean that if you have a 'separste' chassis plate (in addition to the stamp in the chassis) that it doesn't comply? Can you put as many (same obviously) chassis numbers as you like? Could be like seaside rock One point that has changed that may cause issue is in section 18 Statutory Plates page 145, here you will see note 12 has been added. Previously VIN plates need to be "not easily removable" now any separate plate must be fully seam welded to comply.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20I...
I am informed that IVA inspectors were instructed to fail cars with VIN plates that were not fully seam welded on the 19th December 2012 but the manual informing builders/manufacturers of this change has only been issued today. I have asked for a grace period but that was refused.
Can anyone explain........
In the IVA manual we have for external projections:
Grills, gaps, slots, grooves, channels, recesses and holes that have a width of 10mm or less as determined by the contact points of a 100mm sphere must be blunted.
Grills, gaps, slots, grooves, channels, recesses and holes which have a width of more than 10mm, and up to 25mm determined by the contact points of a 100mm sphere must have a radius of curvature of at least 0.5mm.
All the above seems reasonable, then we get:
Mesh is only considered to provide an external surface if it is made of a rigid material and is of a type utilised in the automotive industry, mesh that is typically used in the construction industry is not acceptable i.e. Chicken Fencing.
What's the problem if it has the correct radii? Am I missing something? Do they not like chickens, or are they just trying to pump money into the auto spares industry rather than poultry? Please enlighten me!
In the IVA manual we have for external projections:
Grills, gaps, slots, grooves, channels, recesses and holes that have a width of 10mm or less as determined by the contact points of a 100mm sphere must be blunted.
Grills, gaps, slots, grooves, channels, recesses and holes which have a width of more than 10mm, and up to 25mm determined by the contact points of a 100mm sphere must have a radius of curvature of at least 0.5mm.
All the above seems reasonable, then we get:
Mesh is only considered to provide an external surface if it is made of a rigid material and is of a type utilised in the automotive industry, mesh that is typically used in the construction industry is not acceptable i.e. Chicken Fencing.
What's the problem if it has the correct radii? Am I missing something? Do they not like chickens, or are they just trying to pump money into the auto spares industry rather than poultry? Please enlighten me!
Hi all
Just coming up for IVA with our build.
the latest iteration of the IVA manual is here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...
A pdf with bookmark links and all.
Just coming up for IVA with our build.
the latest iteration of the IVA manual is here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...
A pdf with bookmark links and all.
V8covin said:
Is october 2020 still the latest version of the manual ?
No, Jan 2022 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...Just a heads up - new IVA manual comes into force tomorrow (1st April 22).
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iva-man...
Damn, I was hoping for a reprieve on the electrical rules in this update.
"All vehicles equipped with one or more traction motors operated by electric power" still require "a test report to ECE R100.1"
So an IVA inspection for an ICE car is £450. An IVA inspection (with test report) for an electric car is ~£7,000.
"All vehicles equipped with one or more traction motors operated by electric power" still require "a test report to ECE R100.1"
So an IVA inspection for an ICE car is £450. An IVA inspection (with test report) for an electric car is ~£7,000.
walamai said:
Damn, I was hoping for a reprieve on the electrical rules in this update.
"All vehicles equipped with one or more traction motors operated by electric power" still require "a test report to ECE R100.1"
So an IVA inspection for an ICE car is £450. An IVA inspection (with test report) for an electric car is ~£7,000.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a test for the batteries rather than the car? "All vehicles equipped with one or more traction motors operated by electric power" still require "a test report to ECE R100.1"
So an IVA inspection for an ICE car is £450. An IVA inspection (with test report) for an electric car is ~£7,000.
(EDIT: and a destructive test as well)
Fastdruid said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a test for the batteries rather than the car?
(EDIT: and a destructive test as well)
My understanding is that it's the other way around. "ECE R100.1" is (helpfully!) not a clear way to write what is required really, but seems to be understood to be shorthand for ECE Regulation 100, Part 1. ie; the ".1" refers to "Part 1."(EDIT: and a destructive test as well)
https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp...
"Part I: Requirements of a vehicle with regard to its electrical safety"
"Part II: Requirements of a Rechargeable Energy Storage System (REESS) with regard to its safety"
I spoke to a technical bloke at horiba-mira.com last year and his understanding was that it was just the Part 1 which needed to be tested and complied with. All the destructive stuff, like mechanical and thermal shock etc falls under Part 2. So it does appear 'doable', but is just onerous and expensive.
Of course you can throw anything you want into an already registered car (as long as you don't breach the Radically Altered Vehicle points) and just notify the DVLA of an 'engine swap.
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