F355 replica's

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Jonty99

4,423 posts

214 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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Or if for some reason you have an MR2 and you do want it to look a bit more exotic, whats the opinion here on the Veranti Spyder? Be careful, I have one.

I know the pug lights on the back let it down, but at least its not trying to be anything and I love mine... its also gets a load of attention without being too 'in your face' or 'I have a tiny d*ck' sort of appearance.

andygtt

8,345 posts

265 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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most interesting is that I know a guy selling an original 355 chassis and log book... buy some panels from a good kit supplier and you have yourself a genuine 355 with aftermarket parts.

Just image what they would say.shoot

Paul Drawmer

4,882 posts

268 months

Thursday 7th June 2007
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DJKicker said:
I know this little debate was a long time ago. But with all fairness, how can any of you say that the replica kits look nothing like the real thing. The Extreme kit is almost identical to the real thing. The door vents are the same size (unlike the BAD kit) the front lights are put in the right posistion and the rest of the kit looks the same. It is a very nice car for less than a 3rd of the price of the real thing. Still drives nice when they are looked after and don't go to bad either. Why anyone would go to such lengths to slag them off is un real. Each to there own is what I say. If you like them, buy one, if you don't like them, then don't bloody buy one. But don't spend all your time slagging them off.
Hmmm.
I don't like fakes, and I won't bloody buy one.
However, I can respect a good replica.
There are very few replicas about, most of the stuff you see are fakes.
As you say, each to their own. But I still wish that the term replica was reserved for a replication of the original, not for a look-alike.

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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So what's your view on this project which has done the rounds over the past year or two:

Kit, replica or ?

http://www.f40.co.nz/f40/index.htm

Phil
79 De Tomaso Longchamp GTS

Jonty99

4,423 posts

214 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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Thats not exactly a kit car, more a custom build race car thats got an F40 body on it. Kit cars are supposed to atleast be affordable! You'd probably be able to buy and run an F430 for that money surely.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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DJKicker said:
It is a very nice car for less than a 3rd of the price of the real thing. Still drives nice when they are looked after and don't go to bad either. Why anyone would go to such lengths to slag them off is un real.
Because a "Ferrari" with a 4 cylinder engine which neither sounds like, nor goes like the real deal is useful for only one thing, posing i.e. trying to convince people you have something that you actually have not. Most car enthusiasts enjoy cars for what they were designed for, driving (or in this section I suppose, building).

Another aspect is the shoddy engineering that goes into many of these kits, not necessarily the bodywork, but things like the obscene rear wheel spacers used on the MR2 based kits. Just because it looks nice, doesn't mean to say it's a good design.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Friday 8th June 08:53

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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I like the Veranti, it is unique and the design is very good, in my opinion.

Maybe instead of exact ferrari replicas, these kits should be ferrari inflenced designs, but not copies.
Why not a modern Dino influenced design, on an old mr2 ?

I also think that a few do like F355 replicas, so why not, there should be a niche for every manufacturer, being it replicas, original designs, and body conversions.







Jonty99

4,423 posts

214 months

Friday 8th June 2007
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Yeah I like the sound of a modern Dino inspired kit. They kind of got the right sort of idea with the MX5 body conversion, although the proportions just weren't quiet right somehow.

One of the reasons I went for the Veranti was because its got some nice line inspired by more exotic cars, but ts not a replica of anything. This is what Kit cars tended to be about years ago, some original designs. Ok, some of them looked like shed on wheels, some were a little bit too imaginative, and some were just downright vulgar! But every so often you got some great designs that parked next to some top end cars wouldn't look out of place because they were fake.

I think the F355 replicas would look amazing.... if Ferrari had never made the F355 first!

CaptainCrunch

2,095 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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The best 355 replica is by Air Dynamics in the USA, its called the AD355, they dont have a website or an e-mail addy as they work underground(in fear of Ferrari itself) their number is all over www.kitcar.ca if you want it tho. Here are some pictures of one on a stock wheelbase Fiero.





And here is a link to pictures of a convertible one on a 3 Inch Stretch Fiero
http://www.customcarblogs.com/gallery2/main.php?g2...
You have to be a member to view the pictures but here is the build thread:
http://www.kitcarsforum.com/index.php?topic=1228.0


Also, sorry to go off-topic a bit but here are pictures of a Testarossa replica on a stretch Fiero just to show how good you can get a replica looking:








Edited by CaptainCrunch on Sunday 10th June 18:41


Edited by CaptainCrunch on Sunday 10th June 18:45

Jonty99

4,423 posts

214 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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But you can still tell easily they aren't real. 355 side vents are too small, front grill is wrong as is the roof and rear window. On the Testarossa the rear end has too larger bumper and the ground clearance is too high... And on both of them, whats with the Oversized prancing horses on the front grills?

Sorry, Im being a perfectyionist... Im one of those horrid Ferrari pureists.

CaptainCrunch

2,095 posts

208 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Most people who buy AD's enlarge the scoops anyways, the guy with the red swb one didnt, the one on the stretch fiero did.I would never own a Ferrari replica though, I regard the real cars too highly, I plan to own a real Ferrari one day and I will wait to own a real one rather than drive an imposter. But, It is nice to see people keeping the Kit Car industry alive even if this part of it are replicas. I like to see all the work people do themselves, you should see the homemade interior the lad did for the Red SWB 355, Its Stunning. I will see if I can find a pic.

Lone Granger

801 posts

244 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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perfect 288 GTO 'replica' with alloy chevy and Porsche tranny would be nice - especially at £19k built....

MalcQV

243 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Some of those replicas look good. I think the MR2 is a cracking looking car to begin with.

I don't have a problem with replicas to a point (imitation is the highest form of flattery...) I see no problem with building a car that looks so good, and what better car to emulate than an F355. The thing is how far do you go to do it? My dad built a Locost (I think that was the name) based on the Lotus 7, though it resembled it you could tell it was a kit/replica, no Lotus badges!!

I suppose to be a replica it does indeed have to look like the original and some of these do. The 355 replicas do from a short distance away to a Ferrari fan look like the original.

For an everyday car would I say yes? Probably not and those spacers required on the rear of the MR2 to achieve that axle width, they look a little dangerous.

I can understand the Ferrari badges to a point, after all as I said it is a replica, though I personally think it is taking it too far. The MR2 dash with Ferrari badges on is also a bit too far, that does not in many cases imitate, more irritate.

I can also understand that with the MR2 you can almost guarantee it will start every morning biggrin.

The hardest bit for me was the sight at the classic car show recently. The area for the Italian replicas is framed with Ferrari flags. Some of the owners were wearing Ferrari shirts/caps etc.

Everyone has the right to wear it even if you don't own a Ferrari, many F1 fans at the GP's do but I think in this case it is false.

I guess it is down to is it a kit or a replica? I just think the MR2 looks better in it's original form and in this case IMHO it's a kit and would look better without the badges and T-Shirts biggrinboxedin

Edited by MalcQV on Wednesday 20th June 21:42

GHOST KATA

77 posts

136 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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I've just aquired a ropy 355 replica based on an MR2 and I'm really enjoying the challenge of making something (anything!) good from it. It's got more issues than an episode of Jeremy Kyle but it's keeping me on the spanners so it's all good really.

I have no problems whatsoever with replica builders, if it makes you smile and keeps the car tinkering scene alive then happy days all round.

Mine was obviously owned by someone VERY 'special' previously but chopping out all of their nonsense is half the fun anyway. The headlights are so far back from the front bumper that it'd look more convincing if I stuck a couple of torches on the dashboard!

Anyhow, a bit of honest graft, a set of Aussie Zenkei rims, no badges and a cheeky grin should be enough to make up for the ever expanding waistline and greying (read "silver and rapidly disappearing ") hair and I'll be good to go.

For the ranters on here I also own an unmolested 91' G-Limited MR2 (fun to drive, drinks oil like a BP sponsered Cormorant, roof leaks like the Titanic, makes me grin). A 98' E38 728is and a 94' E36 318is. Both of which make me smile (and have bits falling off.........there's a pattern emerging here..........).

The bottom line? Drive and tinker with whatever makes you grin and ignore the keyboard 'heroes' and their holier-than-thou nonsense.

I'll post some pics of the project as it progresses so evereyone can hurl the love/abuse at old Ghostie as they see fit.


p.s. Anyone know someone that needs any rubble as I've chiselled about 4 tons of Isopon P38 out of the bodywork so far.............ha! "special" indeed!

smash

2,062 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Holy thread revival, Batman!!

Dave Jones or Extreme can help you with body parts (and headlights in the right position!)

GHOST KATA

77 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Pics on the way as soon as I can get my feeble head around how to get them from this PS3 to the thread........

I've been in touch with Dave Jones and he's hooking me up with a gear lever and door mirrors. I've started fabricating the exhaust now but it'll need a cat as it's a 97' MR2 underneath the filler and tupperware.

I'm not sure that I can do too much about the lights as it would involve some serious work to the nose and bonnet (whoever made the panels must have been working from a photocopy of a blind childs picture of acar that may have been parked in the same county as a 355...........


GHOST KATA

77 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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That's proper quality right there!! HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA! Just like looking through H.R.Owens dealership window........not!

The chimp that had it previously told me that he painted the roof black to (and I quote) "make it look like a convertible , init bruv!". Who says our education system doesn't work?


GHOST KATA

77 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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BTW, that rat infested area around the car is where I viewed the car, not my place. Apparently he works on "proper flash motors" there. Who in the name of God's holy fookin' trousers would leave ANYTHING of value there??!!

The windscreen is 'missing' because he fitted the door skins without fitting the revised door handles and shut the doors......... I kid you not! Trust me, it gets better.......... The rear window is also 'missing' because it wasn't until AFTER he smashed it that he remembered that he's a massive, pie eating tw*t and couldn't fit any part of his KFC sponsered bulk through it to open the door - with evolutionary limiting intellect like that it's no wonder that the concept of some kind of long hook passed him by like an unwelcome salad...... And this brings us neatly back to why the windscreen is now in his dyson. I refer you back to my initial post - "special" indeed.


You may have noticed his 'unique' device for disguising the distinctive MR2 side vents behind the windows. If in doubt, two kilos of body filler will solve that. Genius! Now no-one will ever know (or care) that it's one of Toyota's finest, lardy, hairdresser carriages, they'll be too busy shielding their children's eyes from it or beating it with sticks to put it out of its misery!


CorseChris

332 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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I am honestly and genuinely interested to see what you make of/with this - your obvious humor, and attitude to this project promise it'll be interesting (in a good way).

Thank you for cheering me up a bit on an otherwise dark day.


vojx

271 posts

243 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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looking forward to this build. . .
coffee