F355 replica's
Discussion
LexSport said:
Yes.
If someone drives a car to make them look better, rather than for driving enjoyment, they are just as bad as the Max Power crew.
I tell you what Pwig, shall we all call you afor buying a knackered old BMW to make yourself look like a balding middle aged sales rep?
sorry buy i couldnt help it! anyway the guy that bought my nova had one of the banam audi tt replica things, he said he'd done the engine up a bit and it now did 0-60 in about 5-6 seconds!
LexSport said:
pwig said:
Yes.
If someone drives a car to make them look better, rather than for driving enjoyment, they are just as bad as the Max Power crew.
I tell you what Pwig, shall we all call you a
Feel free, I didn't buy my car for what other people think of me. I bought it cos it is lovely to drive.
I mean, If I was bothered about image, would I have bought two Rovers?
I'm not against replicas in fact I'd like a Porsche speedster or a Lancia Stratos replica or a Jaguar xj13 a Ferrari P4( 2 million Pounds for an original), Gullwing Mercedes, because I couldn't buy the originals.
The problem lies when you try to spec the car as an original and start spending more on it than it would really be worth. I've seen P4 with ferrari 308/328 engines, why?
I can't see myself spending 15-20.000 pounds on a replica, a replica should always cost less than an original, always, always.
I would always consider an original GTM Libra over a P4 replica of the same price, I love the design of the P4, but it would still not be an original, unless the price would be a lot lower than the Libra.
Half the price would be quite about right, because you wouldn't have had the design and development costs of an original kitcar/specialist design.
A lancia Stratos replica or Ferrari P4, for 7.000 pounds fully built and on the road, would have to be the real price, other than that it's a rip-off.
If the prices are more than that, then they are not worth it.........
I once considered a porsche speedster replica, but the price didn't add up, too expensive for a beetle chassis and a fiberglass tub bolted to it !
I would never spend more than 4-5000 pounds for a complete speedster, but looking at the prices they are asking for them, they wouldn't even sell me a basic Kit ! !.
Something is really wrong in the replica manufacturing business, I like them but price are way off where they should really be.
That's why I would by an original.
Just my 2 p.
Italo
The problem lies when you try to spec the car as an original and start spending more on it than it would really be worth. I've seen P4 with ferrari 308/328 engines, why?
I can't see myself spending 15-20.000 pounds on a replica, a replica should always cost less than an original, always, always.
I would always consider an original GTM Libra over a P4 replica of the same price, I love the design of the P4, but it would still not be an original, unless the price would be a lot lower than the Libra.
Half the price would be quite about right, because you wouldn't have had the design and development costs of an original kitcar/specialist design.
A lancia Stratos replica or Ferrari P4, for 7.000 pounds fully built and on the road, would have to be the real price, other than that it's a rip-off.
If the prices are more than that, then they are not worth it.........
I once considered a porsche speedster replica, but the price didn't add up, too expensive for a beetle chassis and a fiberglass tub bolted to it !
I would never spend more than 4-5000 pounds for a complete speedster, but looking at the prices they are asking for them, they wouldn't even sell me a basic Kit ! !.
Something is really wrong in the replica manufacturing business, I like them but price are way off where they should really be.
That's why I would by an original.
Just my 2 p.
Italo
meeja said:
I mean, If I was bothered about image, would I have bought two Rovers?
Good point.... well made!
Agreed.
fuoriserie said:
The problem lies when you try to spec the car as an original and start spending more on it than it would really be worth. I've seen P4 with Ferrari 308/328 engines, why?
I can't see myself spending 15-20.000 pounds on a replica, a replica should always cost less than an original, always, always.
This is where my thoughts disagree, and to some extent why I would never personally have one of these MR2 based 355 replicas. If I was to build a replica I would want it to be as faithful a replica as possible. So on a P4 I'd be looking for a scrap 'rarri engine, I'd never consider putting a Chevvy, or anything other than a Ford V8 for that matter, in a Cobra or GT replica.
Lexsport
I agree with you, but we need to define a replica,
1) Is a replica a perfect reincarnation of the original car, design, engine, original dimensions and all.?
Or
2)only body design, but everything varies, engines, dimensions and other ?
I believe very few replicas would fit the first point, and be considered a perfect original replica.
No replica will ever be close to the original, because you could hardly find the original parts to build the car, and if you did they would still be recreations/replicas of the original.
I guess everybody has their own personal and different opinion on this subject, and that is why, anything goes in the replica business.
I like replicas but the prices are too high, by the way I also like the Jaguar XKKS manufactured by Linx......
I agree with you, but we need to define a replica,
1) Is a replica a perfect reincarnation of the original car, design, engine, original dimensions and all.?
Or
2)only body design, but everything varies, engines, dimensions and other ?
I believe very few replicas would fit the first point, and be considered a perfect original replica.
No replica will ever be close to the original, because you could hardly find the original parts to build the car, and if you did they would still be recreations/replicas of the original.
I guess everybody has their own personal and different opinion on this subject, and that is why, anything goes in the replica business.
I like replicas but the prices are too high, by the way I also like the Jaguar XKKS manufactured by Linx......
As far as I can see it it's just a bit of fun and a way of creating something that they presumably want. If anyone doesn't like them then that's one thing but to put someone else down because their tastes differ is unbelievably arrogant.
I will always respect someone who either modifies their car or creates something they want themselves even if I don't personally like the results *far* more than some cheque book 'enthusiast' who will simply go out and buy what they want and then criticises others.
Mark
I will always respect someone who either modifies their car or creates something they want themselves even if I don't personally like the results *far* more than some cheque book 'enthusiast' who will simply go out and buy what they want and then criticises others.
Mark
Dernso what about all the lotus 7 replicas?
and what happens when a company builds a replica thats faster / better than the original car?
i assume most 7 type cars are faster and better than the original lotus?
and in newzealand thers a company that makes lamborghini replicas that are as fast as the original, theyve even won the newzealnd rally a couple of times or something!
and another thing if you bought a real 355 for 50-60K you have got to be prepared to lose money as it devaluates.
if you built the replica its going to cost you about 8-9K to build it and useually they sell for about £9-12k
replicas are priced a bit high really, but then theyre only worth what somebody is prepared to pay.
I have no problems with the "body kits" they serve the market , they fool some people - who cares . But you can buy an original of that brand for that price is a valid arguement . But so is the possibility of Keying the side or the repairs and servicing that make it far more sensible .
things like cobra replicas though dont jus copy the look they are very similair to the orignal in performance an concept (the decent ones anyway)
its not quite the same as owning the orignal but i can see the reasoning there its hard to quantify but i think most will agree that a good ford v8 cobra replica does capture the essence of the orignal cobra but a mr2 will not capture the essence of a 355 even if it looks identical hence totally pointless
its not quite the same as owning the orignal but i can see the reasoning there its hard to quantify but i think most will agree that a good ford v8 cobra replica does capture the essence of the orignal cobra but a mr2 will not capture the essence of a 355 even if it looks identical hence totally pointless
the 7 isnt really a replica as such the right to build the car were sold by lotus after the end of the s4 prod run caterham bought the rights to the seven and put it back into production based armound the popular s3 lotus model.
since caterham bought the actual rights from lotus its not really a clone the manufacter has changed but the car the 7 has retained its name, all other versions of the 7 not built by caterham are clones though
since caterham bought the actual rights from lotus its not really a clone the manufacter has changed but the car the 7 has retained its name, all other versions of the 7 not built by caterham are clones though
It's a big compliment to Ferrari that people desire their cars so much that they want one that looks the same.
This is goes back to 'the big car argument' do you want a car for the way it looks, or the way it goes? What is more important? Maybe PetrolTed could do something where we vote about the answer and we'd have a nice pie chart which is always updated. Each member gets one vote only!
I vote looks
So the F355 replica's win
>> Edited by will ferrari on Thursday 24th March 18:00
>> Edited by will ferrari on Thursday 24th March 18:01
This is goes back to 'the big car argument' do you want a car for the way it looks, or the way it goes? What is more important? Maybe PetrolTed could do something where we vote about the answer and we'd have a nice pie chart which is always updated. Each member gets one vote only!
I vote looks
So the F355 replica's win
>> Edited by will ferrari on Thursday 24th March 18:00
>> Edited by will ferrari on Thursday 24th March 18:01
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