Tax exempt: date of first reg. or year of manufacture?

Tax exempt: date of first reg. or year of manufacture?

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Comadis

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1,731 posts

223 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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due to which date a vehicle will get tax exempt:

date of 1st reg or year of manufacture?

background: somebody offered me a kitcar which was definately sold in the 70ies.

the v5 says "date of 1st reg 1987"

the online database of the dvla does confirm this date but also says "year of manufacture: 1972"

so is it tax exempt or not?


tribbles

3,974 posts

222 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Difficult one - I suspect it may depend on the person you speak to at the DVLA.

I had a kit car that was 1st registered in 1972 as a Triumph Spitfire, but was built as a JC Locust in the late '80s. Because of the way it had been presented on t the V5, when I bought it in 2000, I just took the V5 to the DVLA office and said "I'd like to get this registered as an historic vehicle, please". They gave me the forms, I filled them in, and it was tax exempt.

However, I can't remember what it said about the date of registration.

Edited by tribbles on Wednesday 8th July 15:09

tegwin

1,629 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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When I looked into this, date of manufacture is irelivant!

It was the date of first registration that had to be pre 1972!

Comadis

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Wednesday 8th July 2009
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i forgot to say: its definately an "old" kit, delivered in the 70ies. how it came to a 87 reg is still unclear.

here the words the owner emailed me:

"The car took many years to be built, here in England the vehicle licensing authorities classify it as an historic vehicle (pre 1972) based on the date of manufacture not first registration. This means we don't have to pay any road tax on it."






Edited by Comadis on Wednesday 8th July 15:40

Comadis

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Wednesday 8th July 2009
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DVLA homepage says:

Exemption from Vehicle Excise Duty
for Historic Vehicles
For more information on vehicle licensing go to: www.direct.gov.uk/motoring
Are you the keeper of a ‘Historic’ vehicle?
If so:
• Was your vehicle constructed before 1 January 1973?
• Is it one of the vehicles listed below in Qualifying Vehicles?

If you can answer Yes to both questions then you may be eligible to license your vehicle in the Historic Vehicle Taxation Class.


a) Private/Light Goods – including buses used for voluntary, community or other non-profit making purposes i.e. a vehicle not required to have a Public Service Vehicle Licence.
b) Motorcycles and Tricycles.
c) Private HGV – but excluding vehicles designed for, or adapted for use for, the conveyance of goods or burden and put to a commercial use on a public road e.g. unladen HGVs and HGVs used for driver training/testing purposes.
d) Special Vehicles – mobile cranes/pumps, road rollers, works trucks and digging machines (excluding showmen’s goods/showmen’s haulage vehicles).
e) Haulage Vehicles – not used for haulage purposes.
f) Special Concessionary – agricultural machines, mowing machines, snowploughs, gritting vehicles, electric vehicles and steam vehicles.
How do

Goochie

5,663 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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It is definitely the date the vehicle was built. We had a VW Beetle that was built before the given date but registered after - that qualified for tax exempt status.

jaguarjames2518

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105 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I'm trying to get my VW T2 registered as a historic, should be simple but what a nightmare.
manufactured in Nov 74 makes it eligible but registered in 75 so carries 75 number plate.
First DVLA wouldn't accept dating evidence because it came from the VW Motor Museum in Germany. (Their complaint was it didn't come from the UK), so I got VW UK to send the same thing on UK headed paper, now they want to change the registration number to a 1974 number to match the manufactured date.

tribbles

3,974 posts

222 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Err - I don't think that you can register a post-1973 vehicle as an historic vehicle; the date was frozen in 1997 to 25 years, and it wasn't changed after then.

I could be wrong on that though...

jaguarjames2518

2 posts

105 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Hi Tribbles,
historic tax class is a rolling 40 years, currently any vehicle manufactured before 1975 can be registered for the class
:-)

tribbles

3,974 posts

222 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Didn't know that - I thought it had been frozen. Good luck then!

eliot

11,427 posts

254 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Nope thankfully it's rolling again - after owning my '74 car for 20 years and see the rolling exemption introduced and subsequently frozen and now restarted again - I'm a happy bunny with my £0 tax. I've spent the savings on buying another car!

Dorchester

82 posts

165 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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When I wanted to ensure my Lotus Europa was 'Historic', I needed to prove date of manufacture. To this end I had to get proof directly from Lotus stating that my car was manufactured in 1972. (It was registered in '73)

GinG15

501 posts

171 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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but this was during the times when the historic status was still with a fixed date.

maybe today its different?

gtmdriver

333 posts

173 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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It was originally introduced as a 'rolling' date but the Labour government froze it to increase revenue.

I think it was the Coalition government that un-froze it again.