Three Wheelers - Your opinions and expertise wanted!
Discussion
denisb said:
Sway said:
The current project is currently acceptable to my better half, although I'm working on resolving that as the end result would be far too boring!
A better better half?
Relatively happy with the one I've got for now! Her acceptance of silly ideas (such as buying a ten year old kit car as a daily driver) has increased in the time I've been with her. Compared to the grief I got for buying a two seat off road modded Suzuki Samurai as a family car (we had two kids at the time!), she's now positively accommodating.
Wrt to the MX5, if she thinks the 3l Jag V6 is ok, then clearly I need to be planning an LS3 install...
Steffan said:
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The health advantages of the secure largely traffic free walled city are exceptional and I am walking around the walls twice day. Very good cardiovascular routine, hopefully!
There is undoubtedly a market in the UK for an affordable three wheeler kit car based upon a motorcycle power unit and drive train driving one wheel at the back, I still believe. Exceptional performance fun and reliable motoring should e possible given the outputs f the multi cylinder modern m/c units about. Whether one will ever be offered remains to be seen but currently I still mantain, that no one has, as yet, bettered the efforts of Lawrie Bond with the 750 Royal Enfield powered, Berkeley? All the way back to the late 1950's.
I will be returning to the UK occasionally and I will motor over to Malvern and I will look at their offerings again. Only just down the road from our UK home. But the regrettably, the UK just does not seem to be the hotbed of three wheeler development it once was.
I do very much appreciate the considerable efforts you are making personally to bring about new and exciting kit cars. Sadly at the moment the economic circumstances and increasing bureaucracy in the UK seem to militate against such efforts. Best of luck to you! Do please give me a shout when you are about Tuscany! I would really enjoy meeting you.
I agree with you....hopefully things will eventually work out, maybe in different niches, still un-explored by kitcar manufactures.fuoriserie said:
Morning Fuoriserie, very interesting it is too! My personal kit car building which I have enjoyed for over 50 years has largely been shelved currently because I have moved full time to Lucca in Italy and will be hereabouts until 2018 unless something major happens which at my time of life is always a possibility!The health advantages of the secure largely traffic free walled city are exceptional and I am walking around the walls twice day. Very good cardiovascular routine, hopefully!
There is undoubtedly a market in the UK for an affordable three wheeler kit car based upon a motorcycle power unit and drive train driving one wheel at the back, I still believe. Exceptional performance fun and reliable motoring should e possible given the outputs f the multi cylinder modern m/c units about. Whether one will ever be offered remains to be seen but currently I still mantain, that no one has, as yet, bettered the efforts of Lawrie Bond with the 750 Royal Enfield powered, Berkeley? All the way back to the late 1950's.
I will be returning to the UK occasionally and I will motor over to Malvern and I will look at their offerings again. Only just down the road from our UK home. But the regrettably, the UK just does not seem to be the hotbed of three wheeler development it once was.
I do very much appreciate the considerable efforts you are making personally to bring about new and exciting kit cars. Sadly at the moment the economic circumstances and increasing bureaucracy in the UK seem to militate against such efforts. Best of luck to you! Do please give me a shout when you are about Tuscany! I would really enjoy meeting you.
Lucca looks to be a beautiful city and I'm sure that we will get the chance to meet.....but after your walk and when you get tired and might need to drive into the city centre, maybe something like this rough sketch could help.
A very short vehicle, not so wide and tall enough, with seating for 2 people, and a scooter engine...but for the future, you would need an electric alternative....
I had fun with a rough sketch just a few days ago, thinking about what type vehicle would be perfect for a Future Urban Mobility, in small and congested cities... a two seater Light Quadricycle kitcar...
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 5th November 16:17
fuoriserie said:
I agree with you....hopefully things will eventually work out, maybe in different niches, still un-explored by kitcar manufactures.
Lucca looks to be a beautiful city and I'm sure that we will get the chance to meet.....but after your walk and when you get tired and might need to drive into the city centre, maybe something like this rough sketch could help.
A very short vehicle, not so wide and tall enough, with seating for 2 people, and a scooter engine...but for the future, you would need an electric alternative....
I had fun with a rough sketch just a few days ago, thinking about what type vehicle would be perfect for a Future Urban Mobility, in small and congested cities... a two seater Light Quadricycle kitcar...
Very cool, looks like the sort of thing I would love to jump in and have a go.Lucca looks to be a beautiful city and I'm sure that we will get the chance to meet.....but after your walk and when you get tired and might need to drive into the city centre, maybe something like this rough sketch could help.
A very short vehicle, not so wide and tall enough, with seating for 2 people, and a scooter engine...but for the future, you would need an electric alternative....
I had fun with a rough sketch just a few days ago, thinking about what type vehicle would be perfect for a Future Urban Mobility, in small and congested cities... a two seater Light Quadricycle kitcar...
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 5th November 16:17
Edited by Stuart Mills on Friday 6th November 21:36
Stuart Mills said:
fuoriserie said:
I agree with you....hopefully things will eventually work out, maybe in different niches, still un-explored by kitcar manufactures.
Lucca looks to be a beautiful city and I'm sure that we will get the chance to meet.....but after your walk and when you get tired and might need to drive into the city centre, maybe something like this rough sketch could help.
A very short vehicle, not so wide and tall enough, with seating for 2 people, and a scooter engine...but for the future, you would need an electric alternative....
I had fun with a rough sketch just a few days ago, thinking about what type vehicle would be perfect for a Future Urban Mobility, in small and congested cities... a two seater Light Quadricycle kitcar...
Very cool, looks like the sort of thing I would love to jump in and have a go.Lucca looks to be a beautiful city and I'm sure that we will get the chance to meet.....but after your walk and when you get tired and might need to drive into the city centre, maybe something like this rough sketch could help.
A very short vehicle, not so wide and tall enough, with seating for 2 people, and a scooter engine...but for the future, you would need an electric alternative....
I had fun with a rough sketch just a few days ago, thinking about what type vehicle would be perfect for a Future Urban Mobility, in small and congested cities... a two seater Light Quadricycle kitcar...
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 5th November 16:17
Edited by Stuart Mills on Friday 6th November 21:36
http://www.aventor.ch/en/home
http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/exhibitors-platform/av...
Here is another interesting single seater electric threewheeler, the Aventor Aw330.
http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/exhibitors-platform/av...
Here is another interesting single seater electric threewheeler, the Aventor Aw330.
fuoriserie said:
But.
If this is as small a car as you are implying then surely those doors will be nowhere big enough to be practical as a daily/city driver.
As a comparison a Smart has doors that are almost the length of the vehicle so that almost anyone can easily get in. Another example is the Isseta bubblecar with the whole front opening so you can just step in. Without easy and practical access I can't see this design working. Sorry.
Steve
Steve_D said:
I do love your design ideas and the styling.
But.
If this is as small a car as you are implying then surely those doors will be nowhere big enough to be practical as a daily/city driver.
As a comparison a Smart has doors that are almost the length of the vehicle so that almost anyone can easily get in. Another example is the Isseta bubblecar with the whole front opening so you can just step in. Without easy and practical access I can't see this design working. Sorry.
Steve
I agree with you Steve...., the doors in this sketch are slightly misleeading as they , in the real world envelope part od the roof, but on this rough sketch it's not visible....I do have a few more that I haven't shown.But.
If this is as small a car as you are implying then surely those doors will be nowhere big enough to be practical as a daily/city driver.
As a comparison a Smart has doors that are almost the length of the vehicle so that almost anyone can easily get in. Another example is the Isseta bubblecar with the whole front opening so you can just step in. Without easy and practical access I can't see this design working. Sorry.
Steve
I like the Isetta a lot and that was my design reference...but I'm not sure the single front door would be pass current safety regulations, but it would make it a lot easier to design a microcar. I need to do some research on this subject.
dxg said:
Is it going to be electric? As in, where does the 'engine' go?
I was wondering that too but if you look carefully you can see what seems to be a hub motor in the rear wheel. 
I do wonder however where the batteries are going to go. I can't see much room for many unless they are going to be mounted in external side pods perhaps?
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