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GAjon

3,734 posts

213 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Go for it!

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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exZAKly!
or
exSACHSly!


Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Friday 27th June 22:36

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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or a bit like these fenders and air outlets






Slow M

Original Poster:

2,737 posts

206 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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GTRene said:
or a bit like these fenders and air outlets





I suppose it will, at that. I must admit, that's not an ugly racing car.

As an added benefit, I now have some potential real estate for a differential cooler.

Best,
B.

ivanhoew

977 posts

241 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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and an air outlet to ventilate the car .

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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ivanhoew said:
and an air outlet to ventilate the car .
I like that idea. Mine currently has a fan, which extracts to a hole behind the license plate.

Best,
B.

chassyman

103 posts

158 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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hi bernard, just a tip regarding the arch extensions, you say you finally have it at road hight, well when you are extending arches it's not what you want. remove the springs and shocks, lower it to the maximum deflection you want, then you can lay your arch foundation directly on top of the tyres knowing full well they are not going to catch under severe motoring load which i know you are itching to employ. hope i am not insulting your intelligence. best regards keith

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Thanks Keith,

I have cut a piece of square steel tubing, and drilled holes at a distance that equates to the closed shock, with rebound rubbers collapsed, for that exact purpose. I'm getting the shape I want, first, and then, plan to modify, as required. Should be OK, as so far, it's looking like an M on gamma radiation.

Best,
B.

ivanhoew

977 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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yup this is what I did keith , except I just lowered mine till the exhaust hit the ground.then laid up the matting on the tyres covered with a bin liner .

regards
robert


chassyman said:
hi bernard, just a tip regarding the arch extensions, you say you finally have it at road hight, well when you are extending arches it's not what you want. remove the springs and shocks, lower it to the maximum deflection you want, then you can lay your arch foundation directly on top of the tyres knowing full well they are not going to catch under severe motoring load which i know you are itching to employ. hope i am not insulting your intelligence. best regards keith
Edited by ivanhoew on Wednesday 2nd July 10:31

chassyman

103 posts

158 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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hi bernard, i forgot to mention, as for styling the rear end, you'd do well to study the porsche 911 turbo rear arches because they know about big stylish arches. it doesn't matter whether you like porches or not but if an idea is good, then it's good. best regards keith

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Keith,

Yes, I did look at the Porsches. I still have a greater fondness for the 934, than for any other rear Porsche wheelarch. None the less, I don.t feel that the solutions used on the 911 translate to the M.

The height of the bottom of the 911's rear quarter window, as well as the distance between the rear of the door, to the front of the tyre, make it easier to integrate a smooth, flowing shape. The crease, between the M's grernhouse and lower body adds difficulty.

I chose to use that crease, as a limiting line, so as to help to give context to the new, added shape. I am also terminating that new skin in such a way, as to make sense of the angled, flat, back-cut, top part of the Kamm tail. The rear edge of the new outer shell slants up to meet it, in the same plane.

Overall, I really like the shape that's developing. Piccies soon.

Best,
B.

chassyman

103 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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right bernard, it's just that those photo's that have been posted, they all look like the've been reversed into a solid wall at 70 mph. can anyone seriously prefer them to the back end of a cobra????? best regards keith

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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I promise, mine will look as though it had been backed into a steeply raked, fast looking wall!

I do want the modifications, to the body, to look as if they could/might have been performed when the car was new. In 1975, Group 5 cars ware the state of the art, for modified sports/GT racing.

While the 289 Cobras are as beautiful as their Ace siblings, and the 427S are brutally handsome, and the Brock penned Daytona Coupes looked as though they were backed into a convex wall, none of them were '70s cars.

If I wanted to conduct more extensive changes, I would reach back, to drawings I did, for the car, around '05. Will post those later (ss I don't have access to them, here).

Best,
B.

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Slow M said:
exZAKly!
or
exSACHSly!


Best,
B.
not the best example, but a bit better biggrin
porsche 935



Edited by GTRene on Friday 4th July 00:22

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Here's what I came up with, quite a few years ago. When I showed these, here, most of you lot weren't too happy with me.





Best,
B.

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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nice drawings (nice rear, front looks a bit Panoz style)), a bit far of a TVR, maybe good for some sort of 'kit car' thing?

I do like wide body's however, but the car must stay reconcilable as a TVR M (for me at least)

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Thanks Rene. I'm sure that the principal inspiration, for the front, was the 2003 Panoz racer I saw at Sebring. The rear is something I came up with from seeing the late 90s' Daewoo Lanos rear lights.

You may have to squint, to find the TVR, under the modifications I have planned, but it'll be there.

The blue tape is representative of the rivet flange. Rivets will be spaced uniformly, somewhere around 1.5" - 1.75".





Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Saturday 5th July 08:01

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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nice work/progress.

Slow M

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2,737 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Thanks René,

I'm already falling out of love with the shape, after spending my morning watching videos of the widebody Griff 400s going 'round the track. I will probably finish at least the first mould, and then cut this plug apart, and get back to something between those Griff arches and the riveted-on Pantera flares.

Best,
B.

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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something like this wide body M looks brutal too (me thinks) with 1968 Chevy Camaro rear lights