TVR 2500 Vixen on ebay

[matchless_mike]

Seller states that the chassis is solid and just needs a good wire brush and some paint. Well that's handy as I've got a wire brush:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-Vixen-2-5-/150734499...

Conveniently located in Aberdeenshire

[Comadis]

chassis needs a wire brush?

after viewing the engienbay pictures i think (no...wrong...I AM SURE..) the chassis needs a welder!!!

also (imo) needs new wiring, new seats, a ot of TLC for the rest of the interior,new brakes, suspension rebushing, new tyres.

basically its needs a complete body off full restoration.

Edited by Comadis on Monday 16th January 19:48

[moluag]

Looks like it was originally CLARET

[vixen1700]

Out of interest, where do you get those bits of information about the original colour, I'd like to see mine.

[moluag]

David Gerald has the original "as built" records of pre M series. and he kindly copied a couple of pages that included my car, when I had mine restored by them.

The pages I have refer to chassis numbers 2111 -> 2136, my cars chassis number being 2134/6.

[vixen1700]

OK, cheers.

Mine's 2173/4, damn!

[Moto]

Comadis said:

chassis needs a wire brush?

after viewing the engienbay pictures i think (no...wrong...I AM SURE..) the chassis needs a welder!!!

also (imo) needs new wiring, new seats, a ot of TLC for the rest of the interior,new brakes, suspension rebushing, new tyres.

basically its needs a complete body off full restoration.

Edited by Comadis on Monday 16th January 19:48

Sold at £6,850. Is that about right if a full rebuild is required?

[TVR_owner]

It appears someone thinks it is. The days of £1000 projects are gone, the days of £7000 projects are here it seems. Will it end up as a mint road car, doubtful. Will it end up as a v8 something, possible. Will it end up as race car....likely scenario.

Hope the new owner is happy with his purchase and the seller feels like he got what he expected for the car - I'm sure he won't be dissapointed with the outcome

[Moto]

TVR_owner said:

It appears someone thinks it is.

12 people bid on it with 6 of them bidding over £5k, so presume there's plenty of potential buyers in the market.

[TVR_owner]

Moto said:

12 people bid on it with 6 of them bidding over £5k, so presume there's plenty of potential buyers in the market.

Ok then some folk believe it's worth that, quite what the relationship with the seller is we'll never find out.

Opinion? Unless it's the basis for a race car identity, some people/peoples got carried away.

[Geoff38]

I think the seller will be very pleased with that price , he had a very low reserve set on it. I know ,I took it over the reserve with a bid of £2500 . I set My max at £3500 which was overtaken quite quickly , So I brought a griffith instead. ( a newer style one and for a bit less money , but not a lot so I hope it's not a wreck , can't be too bad it's got a new mot ) famous last words come to mind.

Cheers
Geoff.

[Astacus]

TVR_owner said:

It appears someone thinks it is. The days of £1000 projects are gone, the days of £7000 projects are here it seems. Will it end up as a mint road car, doubtful. Will it end up as a v8 something, possible. Will it end up as race car....likely scenario.

Hope the new owner is happy with his purchase and the seller feels like he got what he expected for the car - I'm sure he won't be dissapointed with the outcome

The days of the £1000 project have been over for quite some time. I looked for ages before I bought my Series 1 and I paid well more than that for the privilege of replacing almost every part I have touched so far! Although, on the face of it this car is in one piece it apparently also needs a complete rebuild. Perhaps you could do a rolling rebuild? Who knows! I am a little surprised that it went for nearly £7k, 5 or 6 would not have surprised me at all.

There is a lot of demand for these cars and they don't come up very often.

Edited by Astacus on Wednesday 18th January 06:51

[heightswitch]

Astacus said:

The days of the £1000 project have been over for quite some time. I looked for ages before I bought my Series 1 and I paid well more than that for the privilege of replacing almost every part I have touched so far! Although, on the face of it this car is in one piece it apparently also needs a complete rebuild. Perhaps you could do a rolling rebuild? Who knows! I am a little surprised that it went for nearly £7k, 5 or 6 would not have surprised me at all.

There is a lot of demand for these cars and they don't come up very often.

Edited by Astacus on Wednesday 18th January 06:51

Regrettably greed usually takes over with classic cars.
Sellers see beautifully restored cars costing many thousands of pounds and then feel that their pile of scrap with identity tag and logbook is worth more as a result.

In a way we are all hypocrits in that we all want to buy cheap and sell high.

It starts to get silly though when the big money boys start to move in on a particular marque. In a way it is good because values increase and more expensive restorations are undertaken. in another very sad since it is my belief that the working mans supercar simply extends beyond the reach of the working man it was originally intended for.

These cars generally now are being built for the race track. very few truly original road cars are around or being built. The worst scenario is the original car that is changed into something else but still purported to be original.

When the gentleman racers move in on a marque then anything up to £10k for a vixen becomes incidental on a £50k re-build!!

and don't forget. this on paper at least is the least desirable vixen!!

N.

Edited by heightswitch on Wednesday 18th January 07:52

Edited by heightswitch on Wednesday 18th January 07:54

[Geoff38]

[quote=heightswitch]

"Sellers see beautifully restored cars costing many thousands of pounds and then feel that their pile of scrap with identity tag and logbook is worth more as a result."



I know your sentence above was not aimed at this auction and was a general view , but in this case I could have had a project for £2500. I can hear you all laughing , me included . But the seller did set a low/acceptable reserve and in cloud cuckoo land and no one else bothered with it , it could have been mine.
Cheers
Geoff

edited to add smiley.

[heightswitch]

Geoff38]eightswitch said:

"Sellers see beautifully restored cars costing many thousands of pounds and then feel that their pile of scrap with identity tag and logbook is worth more as a result."



I know your sentence above was not aimed at this auction and was a general view , but in this case I could have had a project for £2500. I can hear you all laughing , me included . But the seller did set a low/acceptable reserve and in cloud cuckoo land and no one else bothered with it , it could have been mine.
Cheers
Geoff

edited to add smiley.

In this instant it isn't really the sellers fault. as you say it was an auction and an auction requires competition to tango!!

Interested to know who paid too much though?

N.

[phillpot]

heightswitch said:

Interested to know who paid too much though?

Really don't understand why that's "too much" ? it's only around the same money as a rust infested chrome bumper MGB or a TR6 and nowhere near even a complete wreck of an Elan? Ford Escorts are fetching more than that these days!

Maybe it was local to buyer, maybe he wants a car to start work on now not six months later when the next one turns up, maybe didn't want to spend lots of time and money travelling all over the country looking at others etc. etc.

Whatever the reasons i wish him luck with it

[heightswitch]

phillpot said:

Really don't understand why that's "too much" ? it's only around the same money as a rust infested chrome bumper MGB or a TR6 and nowhere near even a complete wreck of an Elan? Ford Escorts are fetching more than that these days!

Maybe it was local to buyer, maybe he wants a car to start work on now not six months later when the next one turns up, maybe didn't want to spend lots of time and money travelling all over the country looking at others etc. etc.

Whatever the reasons i wish him luck with it

When you have restored one you will realise that it is too much!
Their are lots of rust infested cars of the type you mention which are readily available for less than £1000 in the same condition as this car except elans of course which are faster than vixens. A very close and well respected TVR dealer near me even has a near concours MGB GT for sale at the moment for very similar money to the selling price of this car.

Again..too Much is a subjective term. if you earn a couple of million per year salary it is probably the price of an evening out. as a Quarter of the average working mans income though its a very big purchase??

If you think that it isn't too much I can only hope that one day I am fortunate enough for you to buy one of my cars

N.

N.

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[tomtrout]

I guess if it's a Vixen that you desperatly want and there are four or five others who also want one then what options do you have? I paid twice as much as what my car was realistically worth to any nonrmal person! I put my purchase down to mild insanity but I'm now begining to think I wasn't quite as mad as I thought I was. Perhaps in three years time the bloke who bought the 2500 will feel he snapped up a bargain. Who knows!

[Astacus]

tomtrout said:

I guess if it's a Vixen that you desperatly want and there are four or five others who also want one then what options do you have? I paid twice as much as what my car was realistically worth to any nonrmal person! I put my purchase down to mild insanity but I'm now begining to think I wasn't quite as mad as I thought I was. Perhaps in three years time the bloke who bought the 2500 will feel he snapped up a bargain. Who knows!

Agreed

[wmo418]

If you buy any car to restore the chances are you paid 'too much' for it. There are few classics left that will show a profit after a proper restoration. For most it's a hobby not a business. My wife keeps horses which is the quickest way to get through cash short of setting fire to £20 notes but that's not the point.
My view is the guy paid a fair price in an open auction knowing that another one might not come up for some time. I think it's called supply and demand!