Vixen - engine swap - ideas and guidance please

[prideaux]

Cerberus90 said:

prideaux said:

While your at it why dont you fit some nice MX5 seats and furry headlining and an auto box and oh original wheels they are oh so 60s lets fit some modern 17inch wheels and some low profile tyres and if whe are doing that we can re engineer the brakes and ad some disks and uprate to vented while we are there and well air con might be good oh sod it some cup holders and anti glare mirrors and a reversing camera might be useful and while we are at it ABS makes sense they are hell in the wet without it and Flip Fl;op Paint now that will make it stand out from all the classic cars and led lights would be far better than those originals and i cant find any decent MK2 rear lights so lets fill in the holes and the LEDs will look cool


Andrew

Why not?

17"? Nah, I wouldn't mind a set of bronze 15" TE37s for the Taimar though, would also make getting tyres easier.

Cup holders are always useful.


You've forgotten the modern head-unit, amp and extra speakers though,

I thought of it but its a classic car and it might be a bit to much
A

[DamianS3]

Dammit I've got mx5 seats rear disk breaks and led headlights.. but mine is only an s. Alcantara headlining too lols..

Each to their own I guess mine was neither nice or particularly original when I got it. IMHO it's better now.

Damian S3

[RCK974X]

I'm sure there's more than that list !!!

But I reckon that's about the same list I would come up with.

[prideaux]

I fully agree with the list and also the value difference between TVR and Jaguar although a Griffith and an E Type is about the same so Neil is saying that in that case getting rid of the thirsty 289 that drinks fuel and fitting an LS engine in her would be ok.

Wrong IMOP value has nothing to do with classic car ownership its the experience of owning and enjoying what was originally created there are not that many Mini City classics that have a toyota Celica engine fitted i can only think of one and if any mini owner is changing there engine most will opt for cooper upgrade.
Morris minors the same unless they are going down the Hot Rod direction i am not so anal as to say every nut and bolt has to be exact and correct date stamps etc although some would like that and on all my cars there are elements that are not OE but all would be in period.

yes there are exceptions and we see MGs etc done with other engines but there productions where massive in comparison to TVRs

We should be waking up to what we have which is a very rare and desirable classic car that we are only custodians of what will the next group of custodians think of how we cared for them we have already seen what some people think towards a certain car on e bay this week i hope we dont see more
A

[Adrian@]

I would not of added Lotus twin cam and a Daimler V8 to a list and I do not enough about any of the American V8's that were fitted ...but then this is the WWW.
Adrian@

[pete.reeve]

heightswitch said:

Andrew Likes dogs so he can't be all bad. we are a fully inclusive forum so tend to accept people and the comments for what they are…..
Now if I had said BDA engine I wonder what the response would be…

Interestingly the following engines have been fitted to TVR over the years….

Ford Sidevalve
Coventry Climax
MGA and MGB 4 cyl
Ford Crossflow
Daimler V8
Lotus twin cam
289 Ford V8
302 Ford V8
302 Cleveland
Ford essex 3.0
Ford Cologne 2.8 and 2.9
Rover V8 all the capacities
Triumph straight 6
Holden V8

TVR AJP
TVR Speed 6
TVR speed 12

Have I missed any??

Tasmin Ford SOHC Pinto.

[Adrian@]

Triumph 2500, 1300
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Saturday 16th August 07:29

[DavidY]

prideaux said:

We should be waking up to what we have which is a very rare and desirable classic car that we are only custodians of what will the next group of custodians think of how we cared for them we have already seen what some people think towards a certain car on e bay this week i hope we dont see more
A

Andrew

[soap box mode]

You really need to get off this hobby horse. TVRs are old sports cars and nothing else, they are not 'Classic' in the sense that they were cars that changed the motoring world, like the Mini. E-Type, 2CV, Citreon DS, Ford Model T, etc, they are not 'Classic' in that they have a pedigree international racing heritage like Ferrari, Maserati, Lotus, Etc, they are just old.

What people choose to do with their own car is their own business, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. TVRs have had a long history of being modified either by Garages, the factory (heightswitch, you left off the 660 SEAC, Cosworth S, and V6 Holden S, all FACTORY mods!!!!!) or owners, the marque is all the better for it. If you want to keep your car(s) as close to what you believe is original specification then good for you, no one is slagging you off for it, so just stop deriding people who choose to do something different. You are not the custodian of all things TVR, nor the ultimate authority, just an enthusiast.

[end of soap box]

davidy

[pete.reeve]

DavidY said:

Andrew

[soap box mode]

You really need to get off this hobby horse. TVRs are old sports cars and nothing else, they are not 'Classic' in the sense that they were cars that changed the motoring world, like the Mini. E-Type, 2CV, Citreon DS, Ford Model T, etc, they are not 'Classic' in that they have a pedigree international racing heritage like Ferrari, Maserati, Lotus, Etc, they are just old.

What people choose to do with their own car is their own business, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. TVRs have had a long history of being modified either by Garages, the factory (heightswitch, you left off the 660 SEAC, Cosworth S, and V6 Holden S, all FACTORY mods!!!!!) or owners, the marque is all the better for it. If you want to keep your car(s) as close to what you believe is original specification then good for you, no one is slagging you off for it, so just stop deriding people who choose to do something different. You are not the custodian of all things TVR, nor the ultimate authority, just an enthusiast.

[end of soap box]

davidy

[DavidY]

1 off SEAC built by the factory for a Swedish customer with 6.6ltr yank engine

[phillpot]

heightswitch said:

Interestingly the following engines have been fitted to TVR over the years….


............ Ford Crossflow .............

Were there not any pre-crossflow Fords ( side valve aside) or did TVR not really "get into" Ford power until the crossflow Kent came along, around '67?

[GAjon]

heightswitch said:

I am thinking about buying a 2.0TFSI Quattro audi and building a 4wd vixen for the next build. I live up in the hills in Northumberland so it would make for a great daily driver???

N.

How about the Mazda MPS engine with AWD system off the 6MPS, 260Hp out of the box easily tunable to over 300hp?

[GAjon]

heightswitch said:

Like it and the Mazda will be cheaper to buy…
you should be in the Garage Jon now that the motorhome isn't in the way
N.

That's true, however this morning I'm sporting a V8 twin turbo, supercharged nitro fuelled hangover, and can't get of the sofa.

[prideaux]

DavidY said:

Andrew

[soap box mode]

You really need to get off this hobby horse. TVRs are old sports cars and nothing else, they are not 'Classic' in the sense that they were cars that changed the motoring world, like the Mini. E-Type, 2CV, Citreon DS, Ford Model T, etc, they are not 'Classic' in that they have a pedigree international racing heritage like Ferrari, Maserati, Lotus, Etc, they are just old.

What people choose to do with their own car is their own business, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. TVRs have had a long history of being modified either by Garages, the factory (heightswitch, you left off the 660 SEAC, Cosworth S, and V6 Holden S, all FACTORY mods!!!!!) or owners, the marque is all the better for it. If you want to keep your car(s) as close to what you believe is original specification then good for you, no one is slagging you off for it, so just stop deriding people who choose to do something different. You are not the custodian of all things TVR, nor the ultimate authority, just an enthusiast.

[end of soap box]

davidy

David
I dont know if you where ever involved in a debating society however the purpose of such is to help the audience to think and see both sides of a debate.
One reason for being on that soap box as you call it is to make the readers think often which side of the debate they fall.
Thats great and the purpose of a debate.
If nothing else it makes people sit up and think hey these cars are more special than i thought and want to try and at least preserve as much as possible the original car then great.
Neil is right that a lot of my Tuscan is not original however i would call it a conversion not a replica as there is far to much original to class it along side an MX5 with a ferrari body.

However i myself just call it Mine.

I Would prefer to have a 289 fitted in the car however i am working with what was there when i purchased the car and like Neils and other conversions had been done to such a high standard i have decided that it will stay that way for my ownership however i hope that maybe in years to come someone will maybe take that back to a 289 however there where MAL none wide bodied Tuscans that had 302s fitted as OE so its not a massive issue its an Original Tuscan and that i am happy about and maybe even one day will go back to v6 who knows.

Regards the Headlining Neil thats correct and will be changed next year when the correct or close fabric is found.

However My car or Neils Car are not the issue here its the overall perception as to how we see the Mark and the Cars.

Mine is only one point of View and if nothing else i hope it makes others think and if it saves and preserves one car from the kind of fate that i have seen on a few occasions over the last few years.

Then Great i am happy to put my head over the parapet as they say

Andrew

[griff 200]

if I did another 4cyl I would use a red top again but with twin 40s. It's a nice toque engine. But will need a brake upgrade to stop it. Richard

[prideaux]

griff 200 said:

if I did another 4cyl I would use a red top again but with twin 40s. It's a nice toque engine. But will need a brake upgrade to stop it. Richard

You did a beautiful job on that though Richard and she is still going strong original or not it was fantastic role on the next special it will be stunning
A

[griff 200]

Hopefully Lee is nearly finished the seats and dash so will good to start again.

[geeeman]

bumped into this today



Banks europa type 47. Their preferred power is Vauxhall 2 litre! A very desirable car, dare i say more so that the s2 europa its derived from, and reflected in the prices of the banks cars

Spyder engineering also do a zetec europa conversion, as well as their well known elan +2 zetec, where externally the car is unmodified, but sits on a spaceframe backbone chassis, more rigid than the original, and with uprated suspension/brakes etc..

A classic TVR following this ethos obviously makes sense too

[prideaux]

griff 200 said:

Hopefully Lee is nearly finished the seats and dash so will good to start again.

This is going to be one non OE car that i know i will love as firstly no classic car has been lost in its creation and without giving to much away will have more OE Classic Features than a lot of rebuilds.
This is one car i cant wait to see finished.
A couple more loads of hay and you will be there
There is a picture out there on the Webb but i am not telling where
A

[GTRene]

geeeman said:

bumped into this today



Banks europa type 47. Their preferred power is Vauxhall 2 litre! A very desirable car, dare i say more so that the s2 europa its derived from, and reflected in the prices of the banks cars

Spyder engineering also do a zetec europa conversion, as well as their well known elan +2 zetec, where externally the car is unmodified, but sits on a spaceframe backbone chassis, more rigid than the original, and with uprated suspension/brakes etc..

A classic TVR following this ethos obviously makes sense too

I guess that is this one?



http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C304732#

and also for sale one with the zetec engine>



http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C443436