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The AC Delco gauge on my Vixen has read full as long as I've had the car (6 years). During a recent refurb I had the rear screen out so I removed the sender unit from the tank and sent it back to Caerbont for repair. They sent me an exact replacement.
Now turns out the sender unit (which I had presumed was original) is not compatible with the gauge (also presumed original). When the float is low, the gauge reads full: when the float is high, the gauge reads half.
Does anyone have a possible solution ??
Now turns out the sender unit (which I had presumed was original) is not compatible with the gauge (also presumed original). When the float is low, the gauge reads full: when the float is high, the gauge reads half.
Does anyone have a possible solution ??
Just checking, but didn't those early AC gauges have fully adjustable scale on them ? I think they have little coils which can be moved to change the needle behaviour ??
Anyway, if you have a test meter, standard arrangment is that sender will be high resistance at empty (around 450 ohms or more I think ?) and low resistance at full (about 15 ohms). If it goes the other way, then it is upside down !!
Anyway, if you have a test meter, standard arrangment is that sender will be high resistance at empty (around 450 ohms or more I think ?) and low resistance at full (about 15 ohms). If it goes the other way, then it is upside down !!
Thanks for your replies.
Seems that the original AC Delco gauge had a sender unit from a VIVA HB. Unless someone knows different, these appear to be unobtainable.
For some reason, somebody in the past has fitted a TBS (Caerbont) sender unit - TBS 1114-016. This is incompatible with an AC Delco gauge.
The TBS sender reads 20 ohms full and 220-240 ohms empty. It will work with some Smiths gauges - I'm trying to find out which ones. MG/Mini/Sprite ????
If I find and fit a Smiths gauge, however, it will not match the other gauges.
Alternatively, I can send the AC gauge to Speedy Cables and they will put the correct workings inside - for around £70.
Or, I can just continue to top up every 100 miles...
Seems that the original AC Delco gauge had a sender unit from a VIVA HB. Unless someone knows different, these appear to be unobtainable.
For some reason, somebody in the past has fitted a TBS (Caerbont) sender unit - TBS 1114-016. This is incompatible with an AC Delco gauge.
The TBS sender reads 20 ohms full and 220-240 ohms empty. It will work with some Smiths gauges - I'm trying to find out which ones. MG/Mini/Sprite ????
If I find and fit a Smiths gauge, however, it will not match the other gauges.
Alternatively, I can send the AC gauge to Speedy Cables and they will put the correct workings inside - for around £70.
Or, I can just continue to top up every 100 miles...
mosstrooper said:
Seems that the original AC Delco gauge had a sender unit from a VIVA HB. Unless someone knows different, these appear to be unobtainable.
Have you tried www.vauxhallgreenparts.co.ukOr the owners club wwwvauxhallviva.com
Not sure if this helps directly, but 25-300 ohm seems to be standard for the 10 volt Smiths type gauges (Triumph and Leyland).
So a Spitfire, Triumph 2000/2500 Saloon, Dolomite, 1500, etc should read correctly, but it will also need the little 10v regulator to go with it (normally attached to the back of the speedo).
Probably other Leyland/MG will read correctly too.
So a Spitfire, Triumph 2000/2500 Saloon, Dolomite, 1500, etc should read correctly, but it will also need the little 10v regulator to go with it (normally attached to the back of the speedo).
Probably other Leyland/MG will read correctly too.
Edited by RCK974X on Thursday 3rd May 21:13
mosstrooper said:
Thanks for your replies.
Seems that the original AC Delco gauge had a sender unit from a VIVA HB. Unless someone knows different, these appear to be unobtainable.
For some reason, somebody in the past has fitted a TBS (Caerbont) sender unit - TBS 1114-016. This is incompatible with an AC Delco gauge.
The TBS sender reads 20 ohms full and 220-240 ohms empty. It will work with some Smiths gauges - I'm trying to find out which ones. MG/Mini/Sprite ????
If I find and fit a Smiths gauge, however, it will not match the other gauges.
Alternatively, I can send the AC gauge to Speedy Cables and they will put the correct workings inside - for around £70.
Or, I can just continue to top up every 100 miles...
did you solve the problem with the gauge? Seems that the original AC Delco gauge had a sender unit from a VIVA HB. Unless someone knows different, these appear to be unobtainable.
For some reason, somebody in the past has fitted a TBS (Caerbont) sender unit - TBS 1114-016. This is incompatible with an AC Delco gauge.
The TBS sender reads 20 ohms full and 220-240 ohms empty. It will work with some Smiths gauges - I'm trying to find out which ones. MG/Mini/Sprite ????
If I find and fit a Smiths gauge, however, it will not match the other gauges.
Alternatively, I can send the AC gauge to Speedy Cables and they will put the correct workings inside - for around £70.
Or, I can just continue to top up every 100 miles...
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