Pat's Tuscan V6 restoration thread

Pat's Tuscan V6 restoration thread

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heightswitch

6,318 posts

250 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Loose the cross bar and just have a double threaded boss for the top harness attachments..A lot neater..



Not the best pic but hopefully shows what will work in a road car.
N.

RichB

51,589 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Pat H said:
...I was initially undecided, as I thought it might be a bit intrusive. But it seems to be a pretty neat arrangement.
Pat, how many times have you rolled a car? Are you intending to use this primarily as a track day car? To me it loos very obtrusive and unless you have a real issue with rolling a car I wouldn't fit it.

Pat H

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8,056 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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RichB said:
Pat, how many times have you rolled a car? Are you intending to use this primarily as a track day car? To me it looks very obtrusive and unless you have a real issue with rolling a car I wouldn't fit it.
Fair point.

None of my motorbikes has had a roll cage and I have managed to survive 35 years of riding bikes without being killed by death. So I am certainly not obsessed with such things.

But I would definitely like to do a few trackdays, maybe hillclimbs etc.

The way that Keith has fabricated it means that it can be fitted and removed with the body and even the rear screen in place.

So it seems daft not to fettle the shell so that it will fit. Then I have the option of whether or not it remains a fixture.

The only part of it that I am really not sure about is the main diagonal. The rest of it is mostly out of the way.


heightswitch

6,318 posts

250 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Pat H said:
Fair point.

None of my motorbikes has had a roll cage and I have managed to survive 35 years of riding bikes without being killed by death. So I am certainly not obsessed with such things.

But I would definitely like to do a few trackdays, maybe hillclimbs etc.

The way that Keith has fabricated it means that it can be fitted and removed with the body and even the rear screen in place.

So it seems daft not to fettle the shell so that it will fit. Then I have the option of whether or not it remains a fixture.

The only part of it that I am really not sure about is the main diagonal. The rest of it is mostly out of the way.
If you are going to run with that cage then you need different hi back seats with head rests. The biggest danger of a cage in a road car is skull fractures through not wearing a helmet.
N.


Astacus

3,382 posts

234 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Pat H said:
Big step forward yesterday.

I can vouch for the quality of Ford roof bars...

Lovely,

now I just have to get the finger out and get mine up to him..

Lordbenny

8,587 posts

219 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Just discovered this thread via the 'What's The Coolest Thing You Own' thread...after reading the first page I must admit the dust in my lounge was getting pretty irritating to the eyes! Wonderful story...bookmarked and looking forward to reading about the rest of the build.

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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I rolled mine.

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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ATE399J said:
I rolled mine.
Yes and having seen the pictures it was amazing you survived without one and you did but even more amazing you put it all back together obviously You or the car where not called Humpty Dumpty. hehe
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Slow M

2,737 posts

206 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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ATE399J said:
I rolled mine.
Eyes? Ford? Cigarettes? All?

Best,
B.

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Slow M said:
ATE399J said:
I rolled mine.
Eyes? Ford? Cigarettes? All?

Best,
B.
All. And I walked home so, on balance, not a bad day really.

Slow M

2,737 posts

206 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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biglaugh

Best,
B.

chassyman

103 posts

158 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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heightswitch said:
Loose the cross bar and just have a double threaded boss for the top harness attachments..A lot neater..



Not the best pic but hopefully shows what will work in a road car.
N.
hi niel, that cross bar is for the wrap around type of seat belt that is favourite at the moment, much easier to adjust so they tell me. best regards keith

heightswitch

6,318 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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chassyman said:
hi niel, that cross bar is for the wrap around type of seat belt that is favourite at the moment, much easier to adjust so they tell me. best regards keith
Hiya Keith.
Hope you are keeping well and still knocking the important metalwork out. Cage is great, as is all your work Keith but I fear that it needs to be a racer with that cage...
You are correct though..My Harnesses are a pain in the arse to adjust with the boss type threaded mounts.

Will send you some pics of the old mans..its a bit further on now.

N.


Pat H

Original Poster:

8,056 posts

256 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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Pleased to report that my garage is filling up with bits of car again.

It was pretty depressing after I had taken the old chassis to Keith, because there really wasn't a great deal of Tuscan left.

But now parts are accumulating nicely.

This is the latest addition.



It carries the following numbers, so if there are any Ford geeks out there who can tell me what it was originally fitted to, I would be most grateful:

7J 13
HYF
TD 07***

I think that the TD prefix makes it a 1977 lump, but other than that, I know nothing about it.

I am hoping to resurrect the original engine block, but as it has been standing for the thick end of 40 years, it may be little more than scrap.

This motor was running well when before it came out of a Landie, so it should provide a pair of serviceable heads and bottom end if nothing else.






Edited by Pat H on Tuesday 11th July 15:11

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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Remember Pat i have a spare V6 that came out of a 3000s that was running well before it came out just been sitting for a while.
Andrew

tus6

51 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Hi Pat

Any more progress to report?

I am sure I am not alone in viewing your project at least once a week....

tus6

51 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Hi Pat

Any more progress to report?

I am sure I am not alone in viewing your project at least once a week....

evil len

4,398 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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(or once a minute even wink )

Pat H

Original Poster:

8,056 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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tus6 said:
Hi Pat

Any more progress to report?

I am sure I am not alone in viewing your project at least once a week....
Body temporarily on chassis so that mounting holes can be drilled.

Need to do a bit of fibreglass chopping to the floor so that the roll over bar can be fitted.

Chassis booked in to be powder coated as soon as I've finished pratting around.

Next decision is whether to have it coated in original black, pale grey (my favourite colour for a tubular chassis) or pink.

drink

heightswitch

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Pat H said:
Body temporarily on chassis so that mounting holes can be drilled.

Need to do a bit of fibreglass chopping to the floor so that the roll over bar can be fitted.

Chassis booked in to be powder coated as soon as I've finished pratting around.

Next decision is whether to have it coated in original black, pale grey (my favourite colour for a tubular chassis) or pink.

drink
7024 Gloss Grey

Bonnet mounts
Radiator mounts
Steering mounts
Seat cross braces

make sure all this is sorted before you powder coat since it always irks when you have to weld a powdered chassis and touch it in.

if you go Ral 7024 then you can get rustoleum Combicolour matched and touching in is a lot easier.

N.

N.

Edited by heightswitch on Friday 22 November 10:30