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GTRene

16,604 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
ooooh, wish I had such cars in my garage cloud9...ow wait, need also a bigger garage then biggrin

Fiscracer

585 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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Toni/Arnfried

There is at least one more MkIII Grantura in Germany.

In 2009/10 Richard Perry and Gren Duffy built a road registered FIA race car - and a very nice job the did too. They ran it once in the BSSC race at the 2010 Spa 6 Hours but then sold it to a German guy early in 2011. I met him at the 2011 Spa Summer Classic and he was talking about coming out in the Legendary Cicuits series with Pieter Bakker but we have never seen him. I can't remember his name but I can probably trace it, if you want me to.

Here's a picture of the car soon after it got its papers. He got a bargain IMHO

Cheers

Richard


Slow M

2,737 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
Hi Bernard, I am really surprised that you know my M. I have no idea who has taken this photo but I remember, where it was. It was a situation when I lent the TVR M to my garage owner and his wife while I drove another car for that trip. Find here some further pics, one with 2 beauties and one which shows it´s inner qualities. Regards, A.

Hello Arnfried,

Yes, I remember spotting a picture of your car, on the German club site, and subsequently looking through ALL of the images on file, there, to ensure that I had stolen every one of your car, that was available to me. I think that based on looks, it's the nicest M around, and that was even before knowing its inner beauty. Now, I think even more highly of it. The engine bay looks superb. I am learning first-hand, how difficult it is to accommodate items that were not originally planned for, in the design brief, and yours is clean as can be. The military specification electrical connectors are telling of the thought, and of the care in execution that have been invested, and so are the intriguing hose clamps.

Thanks for posting the pictures. I didn't have those yet. The motor looks fabulous with those Webers. Are they DCNF, IDF, or IDA series? (They look like IDF.) What size?

Best,
B.

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Fiscracer said:
Toni/Arnfried

There is at least one more MkIII Grantura in Germany.

In 2009/10 Richard Perry and Gren Duffy built a road registered FIA race car - and a very nice job the did too. They ran it once in the BSSC race at the 2010 Spa 6 Hours but then sold it to a German guy early in 2011. I met him at the 2011 Spa Summer Classic and he was talking about coming out in the Legendary Cicuits series with Pieter Bakker but we have never seen him. I can't remember his name but I can probably trace it, if you want me to.

Here's a picture of the car soon after it got its papers. He got a bargain IMHO

Cheers

Richard

Thank you Richard for the information. Nice appearance! I did not know about that car at all. Of course I would like to know who´s car it is and where in Germany he/she(?) lives. But only if it does not ends up in a big job for you to trace it. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Arnfried

PS: @Tony, do you know anything about it?

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Slow M said:
ello Arnfried,

Yes, I remember spotting a picture of your car, on the German club site, and subsequently looking through ALL of the images on file, there, to ensure that I had stolen every one of your car, that was available to me. I think that based on looks, it's the nicest M around, and that was even before knowing its inner beauty. Now, I think even more highly of it. The engine bay looks superb. I am learning first-hand, how difficult it is to accommodate items that were not originally planned for, in the design brief, and yours is clean as can be. The military specification electrical connectors are telling of the thought, and of the care in execution that have been invested, and so are the intriguing hose clamps.

Thanks for posting the pictures. I didn't have those yet. The motor looks fabulous with those Webers. Are they DCNF, IDF, or IDA series? (They look like IDF.) What size?

Best,
B.
Hi Bernard, thanks a lot for your praising words. The carbs are 44 IDF, the engine an SD1, 3.5ltr. with stage two heads from Real Steel in England. Together with a Viper Typhoon camhaft it produces 232,8 HP (Din 70020) and 287,8 Nm torque (see diagram). I guess it is a good result for an 3.5ltr. engine. The max. speed with a 3.54 diff is 250 Kph at 6200 revs/min but only on the paper because the well known problem with the roof and the windscreen of these cars limits the max. speed to approximately 195 Kph. Next year I am going to close the sun roof hole and prepare the window frame in order to glue in the windscreen as I did it with the Grantura and the Griffith before. Here is still another pic with a different set of wheels and tires. I do prefer the dark wheels because it looks more understatement, more like steel rims.
Regards, Arnfried



GTRene

16,604 posts

225 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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thats a good result and a lovely car as well.

asteinha

129 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Yes,
the wipers work like a butterfly principle. I do not know if this original, but it works.

Gruß
Toni

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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chassyman said:
this car belongs to arnfried weiss of germany. we go back a long way through the european fia scene and this car to me looks the buisness. i hope you agree.best regards keith
Going back to the initial theme before this thread comes to it´s end I still like to show the rear end of the Grantura and also pics from inside I took recently. Regards, A.




madsvlund

345 posts

133 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Looking super, but....... Please change the blu/red "wanna be" hoses with black and silver one's. Imho this blue/red engine bay sugar-topping is awfull.

But except that, it's a beauty.

Btw, what's the diameter and offset of the steering wheel?

RobMk2a

432 posts

132 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Arnfried,

Is this the white car car 9/672 shown on the Grantura Registry site.

Regards

Rob

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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madsvlund said:
Looking super, but....... Please change the blu/red "wanna be" hoses with black and silver one's. Imho this blue/red engine bay sugar-topping is awfull.

But except that, it's a beauty.

Btw, what's the diameter and offset of the steering wheel?
Thank you madsvlund! The "blu/red wanna be hoses" are no wanna be hoses by the way. All oil hoses, the smaller water hoses and fuel hoses with their fittings are real aeroquip staff. For safety and reliability reasons. And the fittings for the oil catch tanks hoses are aeroquip as well in order to assemble and disassemble these much easier. Of course I know they are available in black or silver as well. But it would costs me a fortune to change that. I have absolutely no problems with that.
The steering wheels diameter is 350mm and it is dished about 90mm. Regards, A.

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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RobMk2a said:
Arnfried,

Is this the white car car 9/672 shown on the Grantura Registry site.

Regards

Rob
Yes Rob, that it is. In september I sent new photos to the register but is not updated until now. Regards, A.

dryden

361 posts

170 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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I like the speedo,...do you tell how fast you are going by the blast of air in your face? wink

Kraftfahrer

105 posts

126 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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dryden said:
I like the speedo,...do you tell how fast you are going by the blast of air in your face? wink
two speedos. Call it stereo wink. Air is important!

madsvlund

345 posts

133 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Hi Arnfried

... "wanabee..." racing, I know it's AN stuff, I have the same for my brakes and fuel. The thing is that they can allso be sourced in stainless and black anodized color. Mutc more understating and more classic imho. But again you car is stunning.

If you go to a TVR meeting in north germany please let us in Dk know.

Grüss

Slow M

2,737 posts

207 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
Hi Bernard, thanks a lot for your praising words. The carbs are 44 IDF, the engine an SD1, 3.5ltr. with stage two heads from Real Steel in England. Together with a Viper Typhoon camhaft it produces 232,8 HP (Din 70020) and 287,8 Nm torque (see diagram). I guess it is a good result for an 3.5ltr. engine. The max. speed with a 3.54 diff is 250 Kph at 6200 revs/min but only on the paper because the well known problem with the roof and the windscreen of these cars limits the max. speed to approximately 195 Kph. Next year I am going to close the sun roof hole and prepare the window frame in order to glue in the windscreen as I did it with the Grantura and the Griffith before. Here is still another pic with a different set of wheels and tires. I do prefer the dark wheels because it looks more understatement, more like steel rims.
Regards, Arnfried


Arnfried,

I did have one picture of your M with the Alu wheels.

Yes, The dark ones suit your car so much more.

I made a hard sunroof panel for my M. It won't add rigidity to the body, but it shouldn't leave, either.

For the windshield, I'm considering "buzzard bars," or a mirror rod, to connect the upper and lower windshield "frame."

I suppose, when you get those last few details sorted, you could try a cam that moves the power band further up the rev range, to take advantage of all that breathing, at the top. Then, a 3.31 gear, and (theoretical) 267kph is in your pocket. biggrin

Best,
B.

Grantura MKI

817 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
chassyman said:
this car belongs to arnfried weiss of germany. we go back a long way through the european fia scene and this car to me looks the buisness. i hope you agree.best regards keith
Going back to the initial theme before this thread comes to it´s end I still like to show the rear end of the Grantura and also pics from inside I took recently. Regards, A.



That car needs a set of TVR inlet manifolds fitted. Would look the dogs @&*#'s!
Best,
D.

Slow M

2,737 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Grantura MKI said:
That car needs a set of TVR inlet manifolds fitted. Would look the dogs @&*#'s!
Best,
D.
Where would one acquire such an item?

Best,
B.

Slow M

2,737 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
Going back to the initial theme before this thread comes to it´s end I still like to show the rear end of the Grantura and also pics from inside I took recently. Regards, A.



Arnfried,

What is around, and under the steering column? One item looks like a Delrin bush, of some sort, the other a support?

Best,
B.

GTRene

16,604 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Kraftfahrer said:
how lovely and clean by looks.
How about that rear window when driving at high speeds, is this window glued in?
so it stays in also with high speeds and high cabin pressure?