piper 270/2 cam V6

piper 270/2 cam V6

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bluezeeland

1,965 posts

159 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Adrian@ said:
Frank, what did you go for in the end ..remind us.

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 11th August 21:48
Stage II heads, V63 cam, rejetted 38DGAS...

Adrian@

4,307 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Frank, I have just run-in a second big valve with VA14 combination (you knew that used that in the first one) with bored out DGAS, both running 5 speeds... lovely for road use.
Adrian@

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

159 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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You mean that VA14 that came out of my boot ? smile The VA14 is somewhat 'sharper' isn't it ?

In any case the above setup, coupled to a 5-speed and reratio'ed diff makes for a very driveable, fast road car (as per intention...) She delivered beautifully on a 2.5 K road-trip around the UK

(sorry OP, for going off topic)

@ OP; if the 40DFI will bore-wash the cylinders and killing the engine slowly, a 38DG(A/E/M)S surely would be a better option ?

plasticpig72

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1,647 posts

149 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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surely it is possible for me to jet the Weber 40 DFI correctly to suit the Piper 270/2.
imho the choice of cam and carb is a personal choice.
I also have a Lotus Elan Sprint + a Lotus Elan Plus 2S130 and both have Dellorto carbs and run very well but some people prefer Weber 40 dcoe.
You pay your money and take your choice

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

159 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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plasticpig72 said:
surely it is possible for me to jet the Weber 40 DFI correctly to suit the Piper 270/2.
imho the choice of cam and carb is a personal choice.
I also have a Lotus Elan Sprint + a Lotus Elan Plus 2S130 and both have Dellorto carbs and run very well but some people prefer Weber 40 dcoe.
You pay your money and take your choice
As it is your car, it is obviously your choice !

Could you rejet to 40DFI to suit the cam ? Dunno, but I'm sure some clever peeps do know

Whether or not it is advisable ..........?

Cerberus90

1,553 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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We tried running the Taimar (fast road cam, BV heads) on the 40DFAV that we got, it came off an essex engine, so the jets weren't far off what you'd expect.

It ran like a pig, and emptied a 5L fuel can in about 30 minutes of idling/fast idle.

We bought a new 38 and it was soooooo much better.

plasticpig72

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

149 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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thanks for the info, maybe i need to look for a DGAS in good condition.

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Worth getting a new one and getting it engineered out the 40dg and then getting a good old fashioned rolling road tuner to fit and set it up the best money you can spend on the car you won't regret the investment
A

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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prideaux said:
Worth getting a new one and getting it engineered out the 40dg and then getting a good old fashioned rolling road tuner to fit and set it up the best money you can spend on the car you won't regret the investment
A
No best money is spent getting the car corner weighted, then it will go round corners properly!,,,

Slow M

2,732 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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I'd be interested in what compression ratios you are all working with.

Also, what is wrong with DCNF carbs? I know they're not cheap as dirt, but qualitatively, they also don't compare to that substance.

Essex V65 is still considered "fast road/rally." Have any of you used it?

Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Wednesday 13th August 07:11

plasticpig72

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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maybe some of the 3000S exported to the USA have been converted to run on Holley carbs.
It would be interresting to hear from some specialist from the other side of the Pond.
My engine was reduilt and fully balanced by Burton about 2000 miles ago.
Looking at the bills it was done in July 1999 at a cost then of £2,278 pounds.

Adrian@

4,307 posts

282 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Enjoy the car....let us know the spec and BHP when you RR the car.
Adrian@

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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plasticpig72 said:
maybe some of the 3000S exported to the USA have been converted to run on Holley carbs.
It would be interresting to hear from some specialist from the other side of the Pond.
My engine was reduilt and fully balanced by Burton about 2000 miles ago.
Looking at the bills it was done in July 1999 at a cost then of £2,278 pounds.
Well if they got Charlie to do the work it should be good just get the rest done well and your sucking Diesel as they say here in Ireland
Looking forward to hearing the result
A

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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prideaux said:
plasticpig72 said:
maybe some of the 3000S exported to the USA have been converted to run on Holley carbs.
It would be interresting to hear from some specialist from the other side of the Pond.
My engine was reduilt and fully balanced by Burton about 2000 miles ago.
Looking at the bills it was done in July 1999 at a cost then of £2,278 pounds.
Well if they got Charlie to do the work it should be good just get the rest done well and your sucking Diesel as they say here in Ireland
Looking forward to hearing the result
A
A well balanced Essex is worth its weight in gold (literally)

plasticpig72

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

149 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Adrian,
please excuse me i made a big mistake about the carb on my 3000S.
I removed the k and N filter and discovered the carb is after all a DGAS.
I had gone by an advert typed out for the car by a previous owner, which stated the carb is a weber 40 dfi.
So i am pleased that i was wrong.
For the rebuild of the engine by Burton, i can trust this because i have all the receipts for that.
I am on a very steep Learning curve with TVR's at the moment ha ha

tvrmallorca

265 posts

138 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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plasticpig72

Welcome to the club......I'm on the learning curve after purchasing a 3000M race car.....in the rebuild process now......I've read your post with great interest.... :-)

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

159 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Slow M said:
I'd be interested in what compression ratios you are all working with.
When installing the stages II on my engine they had 2 thou off the decking, so expecting a little bit more than standard (8.9 , I believe)

Suspecting on Plasticpig72' (with Accralites) this would be 9.5 ?

(still curious what your engine puts out, Alan..........)

Frank

FasterM

33 posts

116 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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bluezeeland said:
When installing the stages II on my engine they had 2 thou off the decking, so expecting a little bit more than standard (8.9 , I believe)

Suspecting on Plasticpig72' (with Accralites) this would be 9.5 ?

(still curious what your engine puts out, Alan..........)

Frank
Sounds like what you have done to your car is what i want when i find one can you post some pictures of it close up as she sounds fantastic only seen long shots if its the one i am thinking of
FM


Edited by FasterM on Monday 1st September 19:15

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

159 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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FasterM

33 posts

116 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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bluezeeland said:
Nice well done whats the interior like and does the hood leak i heard some of them are very bad
FM