TVR Grantura MK1 1960

TVR Grantura MK1 1960

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RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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7//C/112 winning bid £10,600 -anyone on here.

Regards

Rob

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

282 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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RobMk2a said:
7//C/112 winning bid £10,600 -anyone on here.

Regards

Rob
I have to admit to being the owner of this potentially important Grantura .....................


In the 1970,s and in fact sold it to probably the eBay seller. I had done lots of work, rebushed, clutch, radiator etc and supplied with many new parts including factory wiring loom. Interesting car and was originally a Notchback with probably the first UK registered Climax engined TVR. It was rebodied by the factory for one of the directors to race and promote the coupe body. Chassis number had been "modernised" along with the bodywork.

If the buyer takes that into account and actually finishes the project then a good buy.

Grantura MKI

817 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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thegamekeeper said:
I have to admit to being the owner of this potentially important Grantura .....................


In the 1970,s and in fact sold it to probably the eBay seller. I had done lots of work, rebushed, clutch, radiator etc and supplied with many new parts including factory wiring loom. Interesting car and was originally a Notchback with probably the first UK registered Climax engined TVR. It was rebodied by the factory for one of the directors to race and promote the coupe body. Chassis number had been "modernised" along with the bodywork.

If the buyer takes that into account and actually finishes the project then a good buy.
+1. A real piece of history!
Best to the new keeper!
Best,
D.

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Grantura MKI said:
thegamekeeper said:
I have to admit to being the owner of this potentially important Grantura .....................


In the 1970,s and in fact sold it to probably the eBay seller. I had done lots of work, rebushed, clutch, radiator etc and supplied with many new parts including factory wiring loom. Interesting car and was originally a Notchback with probably the first UK registered Climax engined TVR. It was rebodied by the factory for one of the directors to race and promote the coupe body. Chassis number had been "modernised" along with the bodywork.

If the buyer takes that into account and actually finishes the project then a good buy.
+1. A real piece of history!
Best to the new keeper!
Best,
D.
Yes Steve it was sorry it was to rich for me at this moment in time i spoke to the seller a really nice guy lives in the states and is home seeing his son and decided to sell rather than ship it over that car is very special and i hope the purchaser thinks long and hard how to restore as there are several options and i am sure even more views will look forward to one day seeing her restored.
All the Best to the new owner i hope we get to see the process that would be wonderful.
A

RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Steve,

I viewed the car yesterday - the chassis looked in very good condition with only some surface rust.

Interesting that you say it was rebodied for racing the gauge of fibreglass seemed very thin.

The vendor confirmed he bought it from you and showed me some of your detailed notes. Unfortunately I didn't have time to read them all.

There are a lot of boxes with parts but the dash / instruments and windscreen are missing.

I didn't bid in the end but it will interesting to see if it ends up with the correct FWA 1098cc Coventry Climax engine.

Kind regards

Rob






Edited by RobMk2a on Thursday 4th September 23:05

GTRene

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16,505 posts

224 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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great story biggrin


RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Quote: "In the 1970,s and in fact sold it to probably the eBay seller. I had done lots of work, rebushed, clutch, radiator etc and supplied with many new parts including factory wiring loom. Interesting car and was originally a Notchback with probably the first UK registered Climax engined TVR. It was rebodied by the factory for one of the directors to race and promote the coupe body. Chassis number had been "modernised" along with the bodywork."

Steve,

Do you know which Notchback 7/c112 was, Philby's book (The Early Years) mentions the first 3 Notchbacks, 200 ETB, FHF 705 (now Green) and the factory demonstrator NFR 627 (with Coventry Climax engine).

Philby's says the demonstrator was sold to a Peter Jones in the Wiirral who crashed the car leading to it being rebuilt. Was the modernised chassis number and bodywork undertaken at this time?

It may not be this car but it is interesting that 7/c/112 appears to have an early style chassis with narrow top chassis tubes and external luggs, early MK1 body with no engine vents, but a slightly later bonnet with flares over the front wings. There are also no quarter lights in the window frames.

I'd be interested to find out the history.

Regards

Rob

Edited by RobMk2a on Friday 5th September 08:19


Edited by RobMk2a on Friday 5th September 09:16

tobsam

149 posts

131 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Hi All,




I have very recently bought a 1962 TVR Grantura mk 11a with the MGA 1622 engine and gearbox fitted from new and hopefully will be collecting it at the weekend. The build number is 7/B/515 which I believe makes it a late MK 11a Grantura. It is a complete car and was in running condition when last put back in his workshop a couple of years ago just after having a complete new clutch fitted to it.
It has quite a lot of previous history with the car including the buff continuation logbook, TVR Grantura owners manual and an original MGA workshop manual for the engine.

It was last on the road in 1990. The previous owner has had the car since 1973 although it has spent the majority of the time in his dry workshop just sitting there. The chassis, what I can see of it appears to be in excellent condition
Even though the car has not been on the road for years he had been busy working on the car replacing many items such as reground discs, new brake calliper pistons and seals, new rear brake cylinders and brake linings, All new metalastic suspension bushes, swing arm torsion bushes front and rear king pins and bushes, radiator re-cored, Maniflow fabricated exhaust manifold, stainless steel exhaust, track rod ends, new clutch and brake master cylinders and clutch slave cylinder, Halogen headlights fitted, MGB carbs now replace the MGA originals, new water pump, Kenlowe fan and controls added, complete new tan vinyl interior, headlining, carpets, battery etc. The original steering wheel is still fitted although a MK 111 indicator switch has been added to the car.

When he bought the car, back in the early seventies, the bonnet was not in the best of condition so he bought a replacement for the car.
The interesting thing with this bonnet is that it is a "lightweight" bonnet and all he can remember is that he bought it from a company that he thinks was based in Bristol but he is not 100% sure about this.
This bonnet is very lightweight indeed and has a lighter fibre glass weave to it. It also has quite a wide sloping down bulge in the centre of the bonnet with two air intakes recessed into it at the bottom of the recess. At the top edge (windscreen end) there is a rectangular air intake as well. The indicators are now located just below the headlights and inward somewhat. Does anyone reading this recognise this bonnet at all. The previous owner
was told that it was a rare thing to have on a Grantura. (sorry the picture is not very clear but this was taken a few years ago by the previous owner?.
The owner was a qualified engineer and certainly new what he was doing with the mechanics etc. He was also very good with fibre glassing and carried out a lot of this to certain areas of the car where it required some attention.

At the moment the clutch appears to be stuck/possibly seized as when he last put his foot on the clutch pedal it was not working and the slave cylinder push rod has now been slightly bent when the pedal was applied.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could possibly be and maybe a solution at all or will it be an engine and gearbox removal to split the units to see what has occurred?

At the moment the body is painted brown, not a particularly nice colour in my opinion, so I intend to have the bodywork rubbed down, once I find a good bodyshop in or around the Southampton/Romsey area, and if any repairs are needed then to get these done and have the car sprayed a nicer colour although I have yet to decide on the colour.

I need to insure this car so can anyone please give me a rough guide as to its possible value for insurance purposes as to be honest I do not really know being a newbie to the word of early TVRs.

Looking forward to getting to grips with this car and probably will be back on here for any further advice/info that this forum can offer.

Thanks
Steve

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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tobsam said:
Hi All,




I have very recently bought a 1962 TVR Grantura mk 11a with the MGA 1622 engine and gearbox fitted from new and hopefully will be collecting it at the weekend. The build number is 7/B/515 which I believe makes it a late MK 11a Grantura. It is a complete car and was in running condition when last put back in his workshop a couple of years ago just after having a complete new clutch fitted to it.
It has quite a lot of previous history with the car including the buff continuation logbook, TVR Grantura owners manual and an original MGA workshop manual for the engine.

It was last on the road in 1990. The previous owner has had the car since 1973 although it has spent the majority of the time in his dry workshop just sitting there. The chassis, what I can see of it appears to be in excellent condition
Even though the car has not been on the road for years he had been busy working on the car replacing many items such as reground discs, new brake calliper pistons and seals, new rear brake cylinders and brake linings, All new metalastic suspension bushes, swing arm torsion bushes front and rear king pins and bushes, radiator re-cored, Maniflow fabricated exhaust manifold, stainless steel exhaust, track rod ends, new clutch and brake master cylinders and clutch slave cylinder, Halogen headlights fitted, MGB carbs now replace the MGA originals, new water pump, Kenlowe fan and controls added, complete new tan vinyl interior, headlining, carpets, battery etc. The original steering wheel is still fitted although a MK 111 indicator switch has been added to the car.

When he bought the car, back in the early seventies, the bonnet was not in the best of condition so he bought a replacement for the car.
The interesting thing with this bonnet is that it is a "lightweight" bonnet and all he can remember is that he bought it from a company that he thinks was based in Bristol but he is not 100% sure about this.
This bonnet is very lightweight indeed and has a lighter fibre glass weave to it. It also has quite a wide sloping down bulge in the centre of the bonnet with two air intakes recessed into it at the bottom of the recess. At the top edge (windscreen end) there is a rectangular air intake as well. The indicators are now located just below the headlights and inward somewhat. Does anyone reading this recognise this bonnet at all. The previous owner
was told that it was a rare thing to have on a Grantura. (sorry the picture is not very clear but this was taken a few years ago by the previous owner?.
The owner was a qualified engineer and certainly new what he was doing with the mechanics etc. He was also very good with fibre glassing and carried out a lot of this to certain areas of the car where it required some attention.

At the moment the clutch appears to be stuck/possibly seized as when he last put his foot on the clutch pedal it was not working and the slave cylinder push rod has now been slightly bent when the pedal was applied.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could possibly be and maybe a solution at all or will it be an engine and gearbox removal to split the units to see what has occurred?

At the moment the body is painted brown, not a particularly nice colour in my opinion, so I intend to have the bodywork rubbed down, once I find a good bodyshop in or around the Southampton/Romsey area, and if any repairs are needed then to get these done and have the car sprayed a nicer colour although I have yet to decide on the colour.

I need to insure this car so can anyone please give me a rough guide as to its possible value for insurance purposes as to be honest I do not really know being a newbie to the word of early TVRs.

Looking forward to getting to grips with this car and probably will be back on here for any further advice/info that this forum can offer.

Thanks
Steve
Well done Steve welcome to the Mad house just make sure you bring her to the Pre 80s next year.
I will let others more qualified to comment on the mechanical side but on the insurance side you know what you paid and if you have a rec for that amount and the cost of importing her submit that to your insurance company for the first year.
Then following having the work done get her appraised say by David Gerald a good reason to give her a good run up there and meet them there and then submit this to the insurance company.
Enjoy the Ride
Andrew

GTRene

Original Poster:

16,505 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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wow, interesting with that bonnet, so it has a flow from the radiator through the bonnet? sporty and way different then the mk2a bonnet with mostly 2 blinkers on the bonnet (looks euh strange ;-))

well done, we hope to see more pictures soon when you have it at home.

tobsam

149 posts

131 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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GTRene said:
wow, interesting with that bonnet, so it has a flow from the radiator through the bonnet? sporty and way different then the mk2a bonnet with mostly 2 blinkers on the bonnet (looks euh strange ;-))

well done, we hope to see more pictures soon when you have it at home.
Yes very different from the standard mk 2a bonnet. It would be very interesting to find out if there was a company in the early seventies who were making lightweight bonnets for TVRs. There seems to be so little information on the internet about these early Grantura modifications etc.

I am hoping to apply to the DVLA to try and trace the owners that had the car from 62 - 71 as after that date there were only three owners whos names I have, as it lists them on the buff coloured continuation log book. Also, a long shot I know, trying to trace the company that made that bonnet.

Granturadriver

577 posts

261 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Have a look to Klaus' Website with further Details even regarding lightweight body work


http://www.tvr-grantura.de/Meine-Grantura-Seite/St...

Hullygully

85 posts

214 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I remember looking at a vixen S1 with a very similar bonnet to this....although that was in Exeter, and roughly 24 years ago...

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Steve,

It is probably worth talking to Classic Restore in Eastleigh, they do quite a bit of bodywork to fibreglass cars. As well as repairing cars for the local TVR owners who seem to have a knack for parking them in the scenery, I believe they have also done quite a few Lotuseses and Renault Alpines. The Hants region is having an open evening there later this month.

Oliver.

tobsam

149 posts

131 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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oliverb205 said:
Steve,

It is probably worth talking to Classic Restore in Eastleigh, they do quite a bit of bodywork to fibreglass cars. As well as repairing cars for the local TVR owners who seem to have a knack for parking them in the scenery, I believe they have also done quite a few Lotuseses and Renault Alpines. The Hants region is having an open evening there later this month.

Oliver.
Thanks for the info Oliver. I was going to ask if anyone knew of a decent bodyshop in the Southampton area as I am intending to have the car resprayed in the near future and any bodywork issues resolved at the same time. It would also be nice to speak to like minded enthusiasts at the meeting later in the month. Do you have a date for the meeting at all?

Thanks
Steve

tobsam

149 posts

131 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Well a day earlier than planned but the Grantura was pushed from the house next door to where my Mother lives (it has resided in his garage for a very long time indeed) to my Mothers drive. Here are a few pics of the car just after it arrived today, cobwebs, dust and grime was no extra charge lol.....

Any comments about the car would be welcome please.




















alphaone

1,019 posts

173 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Congratulations beer So now you have the car what are your plans for it?

RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Looks very good - difficult decision whether to keep the replacement bonnet.

Have you thad time to look at the engine / chassis.

Rob

Edited by RobMk2a on Friday 12th September 18:43

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I am pretty sure that the bonnet on Steve's car is one of the lightweight Vixen "Sprint" Bonnets Tony Claydon (TVRCC competition Secretary) used to make and sell. The car he was selling in the above advert appears to have the same bonnet with added flares -presumably to cover the 8.5" Minilites. This is from Sprint in February 1973, so would have been around the same time, hope the picture is clear enough. Some great prices 41 years ago!

Steve, I will call you tomorrow and see if we can arrange a time to pop over and see the car. I am working but will be round and about the Southampton area all day.

Oliver.

GTRene

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16,505 posts

224 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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fantastic looking mk2 with lots patina.

looks like a good 'basis' to start with, I don't know what I should do with the bonnet...
it has a story, but perhaps its a better plan to put a original bonnet on?

great find Oliver.

I guess you can sell this bonnet for a good price giving the history maybe?