Early TVR Pictures

Early TVR Pictures

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GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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part 1 of 3 with 75883 = 1972 TVR Vixen 2500




















Thurner Fan

98 posts

156 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Fiscracer said:
I always called such Grantura 1800S as in mk4, but I guess its not called Grantura anymore but only mk4 1800s?
also sometimes confused with the Vixen S1.
Not to be confused with a Grantura MkIII 1800 of course




That's another very nice looking pre-66 TVR race car, but, with its chopped off Kamm tail and 65/5/xxxx chassis number, isn't it more correctly called a' TVR MkIII 1800S'? Having said that, aside from the body shape/silhouette, it is exactly the same specification as a pukka round tail 'TVR Grantura MkIII 1800'.

My understanding of the minutaie of 1960s TVR history is that these Kamm-tailed Granturas continued to be produced under Martin Lilley's ownership of TVR, albeit with a change in 1966 to the chassis number format of 18/xxx. He subsequently introduced the 'TVR MkIV 1800S' in 1966 which was, for various reasons, a slightly different car.



Edited by Thurner Fan on Friday 13th February 20:22


Edited by Thurner Fan on Friday 13th February 20:24

intermediate

176 posts

226 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Is this body shape still FIA approved? I heard some rumors.

Thurner Fan

98 posts

156 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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intermediate said:
Is this body shape still FIA approved? I heard some rumors.
Funnily enough, I also heard a rumour just today that the FIA may be about to raise an objection to this body shape.

However, I can't readily see what their rationale would be for going back on their earlier ruling. Of course, maybe they have finally counted up how many round-tailed Grantura MkIII 1800 were produce and realised that the 100-examples-built threshold for 'bodywork is now free' was never reached.

intermediate

176 posts

226 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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maybe they separate the 65/xx and the 18/xx cars?
anyway never trust a FIA man

Arnage14

38 posts

111 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Tuscan V6. Roll on summer....err... and a set of keys that are currently at a landfill site don't ask.

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Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

251 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Thurner Fan said:
That's another very nice looking pre-66 TVR race car, but, with its chopped off Kamm tail and 65/5/xxxx chassis number, isn't it more correctly called a' TVR MkIII 1800S'? Having said that, aside from the body shape/silhouette, it is exactly the same specification as a pukka round tail 'TVR Grantura MkIII 1800'.

My understanding of the minutaie of 1960s TVR history is that these Kamm-tailed Granturas continued to be produced under Martin Lilley's ownership of TVR, albeit with a change in 1966 to the chassis number format of 18/xxx. He subsequently introduced the 'TVR MkIV 1800S' in 1966 which was, for various reasons, a slightly different car.



Edited by Thurner Fan on Friday 13th February 20:22


Edited by Thurner Fan on Friday 13th February 20:24
The devil is in the detail…or is it the door hinges smile
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GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Arnage14 said:
Tuscan V6. Roll on summer....err... and a set of keys that are currently at a landfill site don't ask.
Nice Tuscan thumbup, you lost a set of keys? maybe do a search with such ground scanner, maybe you find more then a set of keys biggrin
not so nice though loosing a set of keys, could mean a lot of trouble/worries.

Is that gear-lever original that long?
and is the lubricate plate replaced by a "Rebuilt by" plate? loll.

Arnage14

38 posts

111 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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GTRene said:
Nice Tuscan thumbup, you lost a set of keys? maybe do a search with such ground scanner, maybe you find more then a set of keys biggrin
not so nice though loosing a set of keys, could mean a lot of trouble/worries.

Is that gear-lever original that long?
and is the lubricate plate replaced by a "Rebuilt by" plate? loll.
Haha. Gear lever to be replaced/shortened, and the plate may well go but I can't find a Tuscan V6 one! - tried everywhere so if anyone has one left over from a rebuild when they were available let me know!

the other tim

136 posts

148 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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Where in East Anglia? I'm Bury St Edmunds

GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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Arnage14 said:
GTRene said:
Nice Tuscan thumbup, you lost a set of keys? maybe do a search with such ground scanner, maybe you find more then a set of keys biggrin
not so nice though loosing a set of keys, could mean a lot of trouble/worries.

Is that gear-lever original that long?
and is the lubricate plate replaced by a "Rebuilt by" plate? loll.
Haha. Gear lever to be replaced/shortened, and the plate may well go but I can't find a Tuscan V6 one! - tried everywhere so if anyone has one left over from a rebuild when they were available let me know!
maybe you can get a new one at DG see at bottom of this thread>

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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part 2 of 3 with 75883 = 1972 TVR Vixen 2500
























GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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part 3 of 3 with 75883 = 1972 TVR Vixen 2500






















GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Vixen 2500






GTRene

16,582 posts

225 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Vixen 2500








luc3000s

59 posts

135 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

251 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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GTRene said:
Vixen 2500







I am assuming 16inch panasports…Looks nice without the wheels being too big.
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Fiscracer

585 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Thurner Fan said:
intermediate said:
Is this body shape still FIA approved? I heard some rumors.
Funnily enough, I also heard a rumour just today that the FIA may be about to raise an objection to this body shape.

However, I can't readily see what their rationale would be for going back on their earlier ruling. Of course, maybe they have finally counted up how many round-tailed Grantura MkIII 1800 were produce and realised that the 100-examples-built threshold for 'bodywork is now free' was never reached.
Mine has papers currently but the FIA are trying to force everyone to get new papers (as a money grabbing exercise)at a cost of £1000 upwards, depending on the car. I know lots of people who are not doing so. I suspect race organisers will start asking for Appendix K compliance rather than current HTP, as grids fall.

TF you are right as usual. There were not 100 Mk3s produced with MGA engines, MGB engines or kamm tails - or Giffith 400s for that matter. Ironic that Griffith homologation papers are for the 200 and yet the accepted profile is a pumped up 400. Go figure

But if you build a completely brand new Chevron, E type, Lister that gets papers of course. It certain EU countries you don't even need an identity to get HTP


Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

251 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Fiscracer said:
Mine has papers currently but the FIA are trying to force everyone to get new papers (as a money grabbing exercise)at a cost of £1000 upwards, depending on the car. I know lots of people who are not doing so. I suspect race organisers will start asking for Appendix K compliance rather than current HTP, as grids fall.

TF you are right as usual. There were not 100 Mk3s produced with MGA engines, MGB engines or kamm tails - or Giffith 400s for that matter. Ironic that Griffith homologation papers are for the 200 and yet the accepted profile is a pumped up 400. Go figure

But if you build a completely brand new Chevron, E type, Lister that gets papers of course. It certain EU countries you don't even need an identity to get HTP
Technically you don't need an ID for an HTP. The HTP as was was always supposed to allow an accurate specification car to be built in the spirit of the period regulations…Hence my car built as a very nice non piss taking Griff 400 replica and HTP compliant as per about 7 years ago smile Then the Fia went and changed its mind..
As ever My intention is to race something OLD, rather than just LOOKING old. The reality with that though is that the car will not really end up being all that competitive…Hopefully though there is still someone in the grid with a car of similar spec and similar ability to allow fun to be had…

Club racing is still fun.. I think a lot of the fun is slowly being eroded from Fia Arena. I get a certain amount of fun knowing that my old banger is entirely self built and runs round in circles quite happily for 40 mins at a time…

Hopefully a bit more speed will come with ability with more bum time in the seat.

It is somewhat crazy though that the correct and most prevalent 64 / 65 cars are not Fia compliant.

No doubt the Fia will change theyre minds again when the little placcy cars still win. The trouble with the Fia is that it is now money driven rather than race driven. rules are written to favour certain persons with certain cars rather than just regs. All classics will be faster today due to technology. The technology advantages are the same for all cars.. The trouble with the griffs is that they were never particularly well developed in the day.. They are today so being a better balanced car they win..People don't like that.
Granturas are a surprising target..They were never really competitive against Elans and Marcos so why they are being potentially targeted seems a little silly..I am surprised the froggies don't like fibreglass what with the alpines etc smile

I have taken a good look around some of the latest Fia EH Paul shaped cars and they have reverted back to much more standard componantry and specifications compared to that which they were running 10 years ago…..Engines, tyres and weight however still make these cars ridiculously fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zey5ZddGp8

fast forward to about 18 mins and you will see me struggling trying to keep up with a girl on a slowing down lap…The real difference is gearing, power and revs. The car in front running a 4.1 to my 3.3, my rev limit of 6500 max compared to 7500 - more?? in the expensive 420bhp car.
Oh and she can probably drive a lot better than me hehe

Brian johnson is driving the mini which gets out of the way..

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Edited by Dollyman1850 on Sunday 15th February 13:47


Edited by Dollyman1850 on Sunday 15th February 13:52

Stevo302

394 posts

139 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Arnage14 said:
Tuscan V6. Roll on summer....err... and a set of keys that are currently at a landfill site don't ask.

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Is that a good place to mount a oil cooler? Never really found a good/ easy place to mount mine.
Regards.