Early TVR Pictures

[prideaux]

Well you please warn us before posting pictures of cars with side pipes some of us have just eaten and want to keep our food down

[GTRene]

Its a Griffith pretending to be a Cobra, wonder how it sounds.

and i guess you have to be alert when you step out in summer and wearing shorts and slippers

[prideaux]

GTRene said:

Its a Griffith pretending to be a Cobra, wonder how it sounds.

Its a Griffith that's been destroyed IMOP probably done at a Time when there Values where far lower than today and someone wanted a Street Rod looking car but hey it will give someone something to sort one day
There is a you tube clip of it somewhere if you really want to know how it sounds in the course of research seen it once and that was to many
A

[GTRene]

the wider rear fenders were some option at the time? I see those often on Griffs.

the bonnet is also different/strange.

but as you said, in those days they did such things, also changing colours very often sometimes.

[RobMk2a]

I don't think wide arches were factory option - the first place I have seen them is on David Plumstead's Mongoose.

It would be interesting to know a bit more detail about the Ex Sagerman Sebring Mk3. Again I don't think Mk3's came out of the TVR factory with flared arches, the pictures of the Sebring race show normal Mk3 body shapes.

I could wrong maybe someone has more historical detail.

Rob

[GTRene]

RobMk2a said:

I don't think wide arches were factory option - the first place I have seen them is on David Plumstead's Mongoose.

It would be interesting to know a bit more detail about the Ex Sagerman Sebring Mk3. Again I don't think Mk3's came out of the TVR factory with flared arches, the pictures of the Sebring race show normal Mk3 body shapes.

I could wrong maybe someone has more historical detail.

Rob

When you go to page 138 from the TVR success against the odds book, there is a picture of a special l.w.b. Tuscan V8s and under it, it says, ah wait, I make a picture of that, my English is not up to date ;-)

so it seems to be done later on, but by who? maybe at the factory?

SWR-9F =



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Edited by GTRene on Friday 3rd April 02:00

[luckycarter]

I think they were sold as Griffs. I have seen a copy of the original factory build/ch/no list and it states that "Tuscan introduced" from ch/no 200/11

prideaux said:

luckycarter said:

I will have to look but yes i seem to remember it did have a Tuscan interior. As for the window frames i ve seen pics of 200/2 and 3 and they both have chrome surrounds with no quarterlights. Earlier UK Griff 200/gb/5043 also has a Tuscan interior

I think that if you go back to the time they where made they would have been sold as Tuscans not Griffith as that was the latest model and customers would have been buying into the latest model which was basically a Griffith 400 with cosmetic changes even keeping the Bonnet on the early Tuscan V8SE they would have used up the remaining Griffith Chassis that would have had that numbering.
Chassis Numbering etc was not as important to new car customers but new features where ?
Makes it even more interesting IMOP as its both a Griffith Heritage car and a Tuscan Development car very special
I think there where a couple of Griffiths that when crashed around that time when they went back to the factory where given the latest features ie Tuscan as I guess we would do today if we owned a 12 month old Morgan or Nobel that went back to the factory if there was the opportunity to upgrade to the latest spec
A

Edited by prideaux on Friday 3rd October 20:14

[RobMk2a]

Rene,

My family own this car - the work was carried out after it left the factory.,

Rob

[GTRene]

RobMk2a said:

Rene,

My family own this car - the work was carried out after it left the factory.,

Rob

great, interesting (different) car with some history, so not work from the factory.

and how was it with that other TVR which also has such rear fenders, euhm this one>

059-030 = mk3 special



did TVR never deliver such possibility for owners?

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Edited by GTRene on Friday 3rd April 02:01

[RobMk2a]

I'm not sure about this particular car the owner will be able to provide more details.

However, earlier in the thread it says it is Gerry Sagerman's ex Sebring car - the Sebring cars did not have faired arches.

Rob

[oliverb205]

RobMk2a said:

I'm not sure about this particular car the owner will be able to provide more details.

However, earlier in the thread it says it is Gerry Sagerman's ex Sebring car - the Sebring cars did not have faired arches.

Rob

Yes, Gerry Sagerman identified it as his old race car Woodwork 1997 (I was there), but the wheel arches had been added at some point between 1963 and 1997. I think it had quite a lot of race history in that period and as usual it got modified.

Oliver.

[oliverb205]

luckycarter said:

I think they were sold as Griffs. I have seen a copy of the original factory build/ch/no list and it states that "Tuscan introduced" from ch/no 200/11

prideaux said:

luckycarter said:

I will have to look but yes i seem to remember it did have a Tuscan interior. As for the window frames i ve seen pics of 200/2 and 3 and they both have chrome surrounds with no quarterlights. Earlier UK Griff 200/gb/5043 also has a Tuscan interior

I think that if you go back to the time they where made they would have been sold as Tuscans not Griffith as that was the latest model and customers would have been buying into the latest model which was basically a Griffith 400 with cosmetic changes even keeping the Bonnet on the early Tuscan V8SE they would have used up the remaining Griffith Chassis that would have had that numbering.
Chassis Numbering etc was not as important to new car customers but new features where ?
Makes it even more interesting IMOP as its both a Griffith Heritage car and a Tuscan Development car very special
I think there where a couple of Griffiths that when crashed around that time when they went back to the factory where given the latest features ie Tuscan as I guess we would do today if we owned a 12 month old Morgan or Nobel that went back to the factory if there was the opportunity to upgrade to the latest spec
A

Edited by prideaux on Friday 3rd October 20:14

As Richard says, this is the last swb Griffith V8. There is a lot of history of the car in Roger Shackleton's book on the (new) Griffith where he talks about the history of the Griffith name. Simon Bridge wrote a 3 page piece including much of it's history. The TVR books may not always be 100% perfect, but much of the information is accurate and they are a very good place to start.

Oliver.

[prideaux]

oliverb205 said:

luckycarter said:

I think they were sold as Griffs. I have seen a copy of the original factory build/ch/no list and it states that "Tuscan introduced" from ch/no 200/11

prideaux said:

luckycarter said:

I will have to look but yes i seem to remember it did have a Tuscan interior. As for the window frames i ve seen pics of 200/2 and 3 and they both have chrome surrounds with no quarterlights. Earlier UK Griff 200/gb/5043 also has a Tuscan interior

I think that if you go back to the time they where made they would have been sold as Tuscans not Griffith as that was the latest model and customers would have been buying into the latest model which was basically a Griffith 400 with cosmetic changes even keeping the Bonnet on the early Tuscan V8SE they would have used up the remaining Griffith Chassis that would have had that numbering.
Chassis Numbering etc was not as important to new car customers but new features where ?
Makes it even more interesting IMOP as its both a Griffith Heritage car and a Tuscan Development car very special
I think there where a couple of Griffiths that when crashed around that time when they went back to the factory where given the latest features ie Tuscan as I guess we would do today if we owned a 12 month old Morgan or Nobel that went back to the factory if there was the opportunity to upgrade to the latest spec
A

Edited by prideaux on Friday 3rd October 20:14

As Richard says, this is the last swb Griffith V8. There is a lot of history of the car in Roger Shackleton's book on the (new) Griffith where he talks about the history of the Griffith name. Simon Bridge wrote a 3 page piece including much of it's history. The TVR books may not always be 100% perfect, but much of the information is accurate and they are a very good place to start.

Oliver.

You may be right as years have passed in Talking to the Original Owner of ML500 he said that from memory that was the sister car to his car and the factory demonstrator that's where the information came from yes books as we know can be wrong and often are.
A

[GTRene]

would be nice to see some pictures of old TVR's with a then and now picture, some are unrecognisable



DLX-8C =



JNP-626C = griffith



and others





200-4-000 = griffith











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Edited by GTRene on Friday 3rd April 02:04

[GTRene]

1-OAV-422 = griffith 400







and others













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Edited by GTRene on Friday 3rd April 02:06

[phillpot]

Hairpin at Mallory park? Mid 70's




This is clearly Silverstone

Edited by phillpot on Monday 6th October 12:24

[phillpot]

Found some more, Brands Hatch

[GTRene]

nice

[GTRene]

This picture (interior) belongs to the last 2 pictures of the black car in my post above (above that one ;-))





HH-CI-289H = griffith 200



65-GRIFF = griffith 200



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Edited by GTRene on Friday 3rd April 02:08

[Hansoplast]

Just for the record.
Seen in Zolder 2008.