Bonnet Striker Pins/Plungers

Bonnet Striker Pins/Plungers

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Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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TVRMs said:
It's very sad, and to the detriment of many enthusiasts that Adrian no longer posts here.

I however welcome another parts source - as someone building two cars would.

Transparency is always welcomed and if someone posts on here as a private person but is making profit beyond what HMRC would turn a blind eye too, then they should come out and let the forum know.

I remember not so many years ago a debacle about a chap that normally drove porches who bought a TVR and sold it shortly after. There was some real secret squirrel stuff went on to try and prove the guy was a trader. That all lands very close to the front doors of some of the posters on this thread...

For the good of the marque lets be open with each other and try to avoid the type of conflict that's made this place ess of an information source and more a location to trade insults.
Fully agree John and maybe will do again in the future.

Apologies for the delay in joining the Party here on the subject been rather busy running a Business that has absolutely nothing with TVRs but has been very good to be over the years and now allows me to enjoy and play with these great old cars.

To Clarify things Neil as seeing many of your comments over the months on your new BFs Facebook page that people cut and paste and send me when you make comments about myself you do seem to have an obsession about me even if you cant spell my name Gray guess its just your little Modification.

In the last 5 years I have very much enjoyed the adventure and Challenge that Classic car ownership has brought and Just as I do in my Professional Life I endeavour to do it to the best of my ability.

On that journey I have enjoyed great help from many with years of experience and have found a number of marque experts that have been invaluable Adrian included.

However often in life its not just the doing or the building of a project but the challenge of finding not just a part that works but the Right Part for that particular car as any one who has climbed Everest its not the experience of standing at the top but the challenge and sense of accomplishment of getting there.
We are all aware Neil that you don't share that passion but are happy as long as it works and that's great we are all different.

To answer your question am I dealing in parts.
Well the answer is no if you take the fact is there enough that the Revenue would like there cut although it might well be worth doing as I probably give away or gift as much as I have sold and I might get a tax rebate.

However for example when you ask a Marque Expert can they do X and they say no and you do a lot of research leg work etc and finally manage to find someone that will make them who says yes we will make them but don't give out our details as we haven't the time to deal with retail enquiries what do you do.
Well in my case I asked a marque expert in the UK if he wanted some made for stock and the answer was no.
After I was asked by several people for them I decided I had no choice but to have them made myself and have sent them all over the world some paid for some not.

In the process of my travels and auctions etc in order to find NOS stock of hard to find parts I have had to purchase more stock than I have needed for myself to get a part.
And many bits have found new homes some paid for and some not so the revenue may well need to send me a tax refund if it was considered a business.
I have also found small but useful quantities of other thought to be obsolete or OS parts and rather than just buy what I needed bought what was there.

I rather think most people including yourself Neil that have been involved with old cars have both bought and sold parts and also gifted them as well when the need is seen.

However both pictures posted on here this week are not my parts but another marque expert who does sell parts for a living and puts bread on his family's table.

and I am happy to pass the details over to either of the OP that asked the question.

Andrew Gray


Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Andrew Gray said:
TVRMs said:
It's very sad, and to the detriment of many enthusiasts that Adrian no longer posts here.

I however welcome another parts source - as someone building two cars would.

Transparency is always welcomed and if someone posts on here as a private person but is making profit beyond what HMRC would turn a blind eye too, then they should come out and let the forum know.

I remember not so many years ago a debacle about a chap that normally drove porches who bought a TVR and sold it shortly after. There was some real secret squirrel stuff went on to try and prove the guy was a trader. That all lands very close to the front doors of some of the posters on this thread...

For the good of the marque lets be open with each other and try to avoid the type of conflict that's made this place ess of an information source and more a location to trade insults.
Fully agree John and maybe will do again in the future.

Apologies for the delay in joining the Party here on the subject been rather busy running a Business that has absolutely nothing with TVRs but has been very good to be over the years and now allows me to enjoy and play with these great old cars.

To Clarify things Neil as seeing many of your comments over the months on your new BFs Facebook page that people cut and paste and send me when you make comments about myself you do seem to have an obsession about me even if you cant spell my name Gray guess its just your little Modification.

In the last 5 years I have very much enjoyed the adventure and Challenge that Classic car ownership has brought and Just as I do in my Professional Life I endeavour to do it to the best of my ability.

On that journey I have enjoyed great help from many with years of experience and have found a number of marque experts that have been invaluable Adrian included.

However often in life its not just the doing or the building of a project but the challenge of finding not just a part that works but the Right Part for that particular car as any one who has climbed Everest its not the experience of standing at the top but the challenge and sense of accomplishment of getting there.
We are all aware Neil that you don't share that passion but are happy as long as it works and that's great we are all different.

To answer your question am I dealing in parts.
Well the answer is no if you take the fact is there enough that the Revenue would like there cut although it might well be worth doing as I probably give away or gift as much as I have sold and I might get a tax rebate.

However for example when you ask a Marque Expert can they do X and they say no and you do a lot of research leg work etc and finally manage to find someone that will make them who says yes we will make them but don't give out our details as we haven't the time to deal with retail enquiries what do you do.
Well in my case I asked a marque expert in the UK if he wanted some made for stock and the answer was no.
After I was asked by several people for them I decided I had no choice but to have them made myself and have sent them all over the world some paid for some not.

In the process of my travels and auctions etc in order to find NOS stock of hard to find parts I have had to purchase more stock than I have needed for myself to get a part.
And many bits have found new homes some paid for and some not so the revenue may well need to send me a tax refund if it was considered a business.
I have also found small but useful quantities of other thought to be obsolete or OS parts and rather than just buy what I needed bought what was there.

I rather think most people including yourself Neil that have been involved with old cars have both bought and sold parts and also gifted them as well when the need is seen.

However both pictures posted on here this week are not my parts but another marque expert who does sell parts for a living and puts bread on his family's table.

and I am happy to pass the details over to either of the OP that asked the question.

Andrew Gray
No Obsession Mr Gray and certainly if you look over my previous posts on this thread I do not see that I have made any offensive comments toward you, unlike your post however!!
I am also pretty sure that you aren't mentioned at all in other closed face book pages so you may wish to review your information sources or perhaps try to be a little less paranoid.

I merely was seeking clarification as to whether you were trading as a Niche TVR business or not. There have been a number of items which you have now sold and an enthusiast asked you for your source. The reply could have been... I have had a batch made or a mate of mine has had a batch made and I can sell you what you need send me a PM.

Instead the guy is castigated by another poster for asking which on the face of it looks to be a perfectly reasonable question…Why I am still not sure. If the marque specialist is trading as a business then why not just say the they are available from::: Is it a secret company?

So your answers are still a little cryptic…Purchasing NOS, buying more "stock" than you need out of necessity ..

As such perhaps you would like to share what spares you have so as to assist other owners on here who may be looking for that spurious odd part!
I have never bought stock in my life. I have bought some bits. I have even made some bits and I have on occasion made an additional couple of bits for mates that have wanted them.

So just out of curiosity..What stock do you have? a couple of catches or perhaps a couple of containers of parts?

again. No other agenda here other than transparency of what is available for people completing restorations, after all if people know what is available then others may turn their hands to something else to avoid unnecessary duplication..surely that then would allow you to sell your parts in your Niche and others could then maybe make or source other bits you don't have.

again Maybe its just a sense of paranoia you have but all I am trying to do is highlight (as others have done) that transparency often helps people rather than hinder them.

I feel our Dutch guy is owed at least 1 apology for asking what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question.

In terms of My approach. as is well known The current project deviates from std. I will post a slightly non standard set up when I have knocked them up.

not original but will have a lovely attention to detail.

N.

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
So your answers are still a little cryptic…Purchasing NOS, buying more "stock" than you need out of necessity ..

As such perhaps you would like to share what spares you have so as to assist other owners on here who may be looking for that spurious odd part!
I have never bought stock in my life. I have bought some bits. I have even made some bits and I have on occasion made an additional couple of bits for mates that have wanted them.

So just out of curiosity..What stock do you have? a couple of catches or perhaps a couple of containers of parts?

I feel our Dutch guy is owed at least 1 apology for asking what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question.



N.
Regards Hans
I have been in contact by e mail and as I have in the past and as his car is being built to sell rather than keep I have suggested that the cost of none NOS such as you have suggested may well be a better option.

As for listing stock that is not something I would do here as this is not allowed on this forum.

Some marque experts are fully aware of what I have and when asked pass customers over to me or order them from me at cost however I have no need to sell them but they are there if needed.
There is no need for you to know what parts as I am sure you wont be needing them.

As for buying Quantity at Parts Auctions etc items are often divided into Lots and sadly I suffer from auction fever and there is no cure wink hence a good stock of certain items to get that one or two mint NOS items

Hope that helps Mr Russell

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Andrew Gray said:
Regards Hans
I have been in contact by e mail and as I have in the past and as his car is being built to sell rather than keep I have suggested that the cost of none NOS such as you have suggested may well be a better option.

As for listing stock that is not something I would do here as this is not allowed on this forum.

Some marque experts are fully aware of what I have and when asked pass customers over to me or order them from me at cost however I have no need to sell them but they are there if needed.
There is no need for you to know what parts as I am sure you wont be needing them.

As for buying Quantity at Parts Auctions etc items are often divided into Lots and sadly I suffer from auction fever and there is no cure wink hence a good stock of certain items to get that one or two mint NOS items

Hope that helps Mr Russell
It seems very Clear now Mr Gray. Your stock levels are something of the order of size that Marque specialists refer customers to you!
Thanks for your transparent response. I think most can now build a picture for themselves and contact you as required.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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We all all come across part numbers/sources and cross referenced items from doner marques as part of the interest and hobby. Sometimes people need that info years later to help with a rebuild and I'm happy to assist anyone the same as Andrew or Neil would, all this daft talk of HMRC is just unhelpful what someone puts on a tax return is of no business of mine and I'm sure everyone has paid cash for old parts without question many times.
The most important thing is information sharing. There is no tax on that or loss from giving it. The information may be a cross reference, source, or actual part - it doesn't matter - what does matter is helping not hindering and on the basis I haven't seen any of the latter then this old chestnut of having a go at eachother can end can't it?

Edited by V6Pushfit on Saturday 23 January 16:35

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
It seems very Clear now Mr Gray. Your stock levels are something of the order of size that Marque specialists refer customers to you!
Thanks for your transparent response. I think most can now build a picture for themselves and contact you as required.
V6 Pushfit is very right

Take it as you wish Neil
However most will see your obsession regards what or how I do things is rather creepy.
I Don't push in and make comments on your posts despite being tempted many times.
You write many times over on other forums that you no longer post or comment over here ??? maybe you should add in Brackets apart from any opportunity to comment on things I write just to clarify things.
As you seem to want to know all my business just wrapped a parcel tonight to the US for someone wanting parts no profit just great to know someone is wanting to do things properly.
That profit belongs to the seller thats how he feeds his family.
What do I get well the pleasure of helping out a like minded builder and free advice and guidance at the end of the phone when I need help its called a Win Win situation.
Andrew

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Andrew Gray said:
What are you actually wanting pins catches or handles



anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
Nice

Are they quickshift? smile

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
Already seen the Nob you have found your True Vocation at last Chairman of the None OE Knob Club Congratulations wink




Maybe you can do different colours








Andrew

pete.reeve

516 posts

283 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Andrew Gray said:
Already seen the Nob you have found your True Vocation at last Chairman of the None OE Knob Club Congratulations wink




Maybe you can do different colours








Andrew

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
We all all come across part numbers/sources and cross referenced items from doner marques as part of the interest and hobby. Sometimes people need that info years later to help with a rebuild and I'm happy to assist anyone the same as Andrew or Neil would, all this daft talk of HMRC is just unhelpful what someone puts on a tax return is of no business of mine and I'm sure everyone has paid cash for old parts without question many times.
The most important thing is information sharing. There is no tax on that or loss from giving it. The information may be a cross reference, source, or actual part - it doesn't matter - what does matter is helping not hindering and on the basis I haven't seen any of the latter then this old chestnut of having a go at eachother can end can't it?

Edited by V6Pushfit on Saturday 23 January 16:35
WELL SAID!!!

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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pete.reeve said:
Cost price for friends in the TVR restoration world apparently!!

I must check the cost of the spring, then I might get a few templates laser cut for the catches…be nice in stainless…I will then supply at cost price to those withTVR's or perhaps via an established UK TVR Specialist…

It must be the shipping back and forward across the Atlantic (or maybe Pacific) that makes them that much. hehe

I think the UK specialist sells the handles for about a fiver!!

N

Edited by Dollyman1850 on Saturday 30th January 19:16

alphaone

1,019 posts

173 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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ATE399J said:
V6Pushfit said:
We all all come across part numbers/sources and cross referenced items from doner marques as part of the interest and hobby. Sometimes people need that info years later to help with a rebuild and I'm happy to assist anyone the same as Andrew or Neil would, all this daft talk of HMRC is just unhelpful what someone puts on a tax return is of no business of mine and I'm sure everyone has paid cash for old parts without question many times.
The most important thing is information sharing. There is no tax on that or loss from giving it. The information may be a cross reference, source, or actual part - it doesn't matter - what does matter is helping not hindering and on the basis I haven't seen any of the latter then this old chestnut of having a go at eachother can end can't it?

Edited by V6Pushfit on Saturday 23 January 16:35
WELL SAID!!!
Maybe a way to do this would be to start a wiki thread on here and make it a sticky like on the wedge section, that way all the info will be in one place for everyone to see, share and update.

alphaone

1,019 posts

173 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
WTF ??????

Hansoplast

570 posts

160 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
I think the UK specialist sells the handles for about a fiver!!
N
Edited by Dollyman1850 on Saturday 30th January 19:16
Hi N.
I would love to get his address.
That's all I wanted at first anyway.
Love to hear from you.

Hans

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Hansoplast said:
Hi N.
I would love to get his address.
That's all I wanted at first anyway.
Love to hear from you.

Hans
Just google exactly TVR and Mr Venns website will come up.

N.


anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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alphaone said:
Dollyman1850 said:
WTF ??????
Ones a worry but he bought four.
Jees.

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
alphaone said:
Dollyman1850 said:
WTF ??????
Ones a worry but he bought four.
Jees.
4 Fallen Angels ah well whatever floats your boat

Don't get to excited Hans I am sure though Adrian will sort out at set that will fit just fine as there are lots of alternative T Bar handles out there maybe even a modified improved one the main thing is so you can Pull like Neil
Andrew

Hansoplast

570 posts

160 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
Just google exactly TVR and Mr Venns website will come up.

N.
Of course I know Adrian.
But your costs/price advice for the handles ( a fiver) could destroy his business.

I know enough of this subject so leave this item alone.
Up for the next (silly) request for info.biggrin

Hans