s2 Vixen at Auction, Paris

s2 Vixen at Auction, Paris

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Warwick67

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418 posts

214 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Anyone know anything about this car? It looks certainly looks good...

http://www.artcurial.com/fr/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?...

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Warwick67 said:
Anyone know anything about this car? It looks certainly looks good...

http://www.artcurial.com/fr/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?...
Now thats a fantastic chance for someone on here if i did not own one i would be there bidding Please Please someone private buy it so we dont see that one on a dealers showroom that would look fantastic just as a croud puller in a showroom remember you only need to bid one bid higher than a dealers max and its yours and rest assured there will be dealers after that car
I think there guide price is spot on if you got her close to the lower estimate you would good on a dealers show room 30k yes the way the market is
WOW
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Edited by prideaux on Wednesday 8th October 15:01

vixen1700

22,864 posts

270 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Nice colour too. smile

Mr Tiger

406 posts

128 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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I have a vague recollection of a Vixen with a 'SYD' registration being up for sale a few years back. Does anyone have any details of it?

Also, is the chassis plate correct?



Chris

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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LVX1235/F was from what i have found out not the show car it was probably the third S2 built LVX1234/f was the exhibition car and LVX1235 Chassis was on display and there was probably a second one that was built where the chassis number was out of sequence which was the factory demonstrator.
This car was sold by the factory as a kit to a gentleman in Weston Super Mare and yes it was originally Yellow and had a Suppressor fitted and rear speakers as OE
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Edited to correct the show details

Edited by prideaux on Wednesday 8th October 18:00

Grantura MKI

817 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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I remember seeing this car at Steve's years ago....it is a quite nice example and a true bit of TVR history. Would be great if it finds it's way back to Blighty!
Best,
D.

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Grantura MKI said:
I remember seeing this car at Steve's years ago....it is a quite nice example and a true bit of TVR history. Would be great if it finds it's way back to Blighty!
Best,
D.
Exactly David
Worth going and viewing before the auction and making sure all working right it has changed hands a fair few times in the last few years the last owner only 6 months ago so that would make me want to do some research but like i did on my car do your research ask the right people in my case the club was fantastic in linking me to the person who restored it and other members where able to confirm who built the engine and even who supplied the uprights etc
So Research is key why else do you think i am on her so often hehe
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RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Andrew,

The Vixen register says that the rolling chassis was exhibited at the motor show - is this not the case.

Rob

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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RobMk2a said:
Andrew,

The Vixen register says that the rolling chassis was exhibited at the motor show - is this not the case.

Rob
SYD was there but just the chassis LVX1234 was the complete car the picture in Filbeys book with the naked ladies in the car with no body is LVX1235
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RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Andrew,

See page 152 of Success Against the Odds good view of the chassis.

68 is the wrong year for the other 'models'

Rob

sydaitge

6 posts

114 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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I owned and competed with this car in the TVRCC speed championship for two or three seasons circa 2005 and my wallet was responsible for quite a lot that the car needed in terms of engine rebuilding etc. The chassis number is correct and I can recognise a lot that was done to the car in my ownership and other changes that appear to have been done in the cars time in France.

The car does have a unique history and is widely travelled. The (2?) French owners seem to have added further adventures to this. I agree it would be nice to repatriate it to the UK. Would I like to be the person that did it? YES! However, I genuinely believe the vendors expectations on price are a surprisingly optimistic and along with some other recent old TVR models the asking price, to me, seems unrealistic.

I'm not really willing to enter into a lengthy email tennis match in open forum ( I also know the joy of "just window shopping" ) but if you are genuinely planning to get on the Eurostar to Paris, I'm quite happy for you to contact me outside of this forum and I will happy to help with anything I can about the car.
Kind regards.
Pete Sims

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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sydaitge said:
I owned and competed with this car in the TVRCC speed championship for two or three seasons circa 2005 and my wallet was responsible for quite a lot that the car needed in terms of engine rebuilding etc. The chassis number is correct and I can recognise a lot that was done to the car in my ownership and other changes that appear to have been done in the cars time in France.

The car does have a unique history and is widely travelled. The (2?) French owners seem to have added further adventures to this. I agree it would be nice to repatriate it to the UK. Would I like to be the person that did it? YES! However, I genuinely believe the vendors expectations on price are a surprisingly optimistic and along with some other recent old TVR models the asking price, to me, seems unrealistic.

I'm not really willing to enter into a lengthy email tennis match in open forum ( I also know the joy of "just window shopping" ) but if you are genuinely planning to get on the Eurostar to Paris, I'm quite happy for you to contact me outside of this forum and I will happy to help with anything I can about the car.
Kind regards.
Pete Sims
Thanks Peter and a real Kind offer it will be interesting who steps up to the mark on that one as its a no reserve Auction who knows what it will make i hope it goes to the best home
Andrew

Adrian@

4,307 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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sydaitge said:
I owned and competed with this car in the TVRCC speed championship for two or three seasons circa 2005 and my wallet was responsible for quite a lot that the car needed in terms of engine rebuilding etc. The chassis number is correct and I can recognise a lot that was done to the car in my ownership and other changes that appear to have been done in the cars time in France.

The car does have a unique history and is widely travelled. The (2?) French owners seem to have added further adventures to this. I agree it would be nice to repatriate it to the UK. Would I like to be the person that did it? YES! However, I genuinely believe the vendors expectations on price are a surprisingly optimistic and along with some other recent old TVR models the asking price, to me, seems unrealistic.

I'm not really willing to enter into a lengthy email tennis match in open forum ( I also know the joy of "just window shopping" ) but if you are genuinely planning to get on the Eurostar to Paris, I'm quite happy for you to contact me outside of this forum and I will happy to help with anything I can about the car.
Kind regards.
Pete Sims
Pete added this over on another thread.

If this concerns the Silver S2 presently going up for Auction in Paris (early Oct 2014) I can warrant that the later plate for LVX1235F was a replacement fitted by me. The plate was generously supplied by Adrian Venn (thanks Adrian, I haven't forgotten your kindness) and stamped with the colour and chassis number by me also. This was because of the old VIN plate on the car when it came to me had the chassis No shown as just LVX1235 and the change to computerised MOT records meant that the tester could not issue the certificate without it being correct. Just for the record the old VIN plate showed the colour as SILVER as well though I can confirm the original colour was Bahamas Yellow as the paint was still visible in places. It probably looked like something from operation Desert Storm when it was first resprayed!
Kind regards Pete Sims.

Adrian@

GTRene

16,505 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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saw this car last week also on the web, tried to download the pictures biggrin but that would not work on my pc at this website. :-(

Warwick67

Original Poster:

418 posts

214 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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This car looks fantastic and is exactly what I'm looking for (to go hill climbing) but is out of my price range, even if it went for bottom estimate €25k you have to add the best part of 20% fees and tax and then repatriate the car - too rich for me :-(
The roll cage in there looks like a nice job, who did that?

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Warwick67 said:
This car looks fantastic and is exactly what I'm looking for (to go hill climbing) but is out of my price range, even if it went for bottom estimate €25k you have to add the best part of 20% fees and tax and then repatriate the car - too rich for me :-(
The roll cage in there looks like a nice job, who did that?
Hi Warwick what is your budget preparing a car for hill climbing will not be cheap add that to the cost of a standard car and your way into those figures there is no harm in registering to vote its a no reserve auction but I suspect there will be interest from both sides of the channel
The days of a £3k Vixen that you can spend the same again on to Hill Climb etc are sadly over but only sadly for potential owners but not for the cars as higher prices have allowed cars that would have previously sat unloved are now being restored.
There is still a difference between how potential UK owners Value these cars and how our Friends across the channel Value them and until that changes cars will stay over there or move over there.
3x3000s examples alone have gone across the channel in the last 12 months although a fair few Tuscans and Vixens have moved this way as the UK byers have started to Value these models higher than in the past.
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GTRene

16,505 posts

224 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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maybe this Tuscan V6 is worthy to bring it back to the UK, does not look so bad?

http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=117664






Warwick67

Original Poster:

418 posts

214 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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prideaux said:
Hi Warwick what is your budget preparing a car for hill climbing will not be cheap add that to the cost of a standard car and your way into those figures there is no harm in registering to vote its a no reserve auction but I suspect there will be interest from both sides of the channel
The days of a £3k Vixen that you can spend the same again on to Hill Climb etc are sadly over but only sadly for potential owners but not for the cars as higher prices have allowed cars that would have previously sat unloved are now being restored.
There is still a difference between how potential UK owners Value these cars and how our Friends across the channel Value them and until that changes cars will stay over there or move over there.
3x3000s examples alone have gone across the channel in the last 12 months although a fair few Tuscans and Vixens have moved this way as the UK byers have started to Value these models higher than in the past.
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hi there, yes I guess buying a half decent car and developing it to that would probably cost about the same as buying it.... I currently run my Cerb in the TVRCC champ and the handicap system means that a relatively undeveloped car could probably give it a run for its money (with the same driver of course!). Doesn't cost anything to stick a bid in, unless you win of course!

That Tuscan is Aus looks ok, wonder what it would cost to ring it back over here?

prideaux

4,969 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Warwick67 said:
hi there, yes I guess buying a half decent car and developing it to that would probably cost a bout the same as buying it.... I currently run my Cerb in the TVRCC chap and the handicap system means that a relatively undeveloped car could probably give it a run for its money (with the same driver of course!). Doesn't cost anything to stick a bid in, unless you win of course!

That Tuscan is Aus looks ok, wonder what it would cost to ring it back over here?
You can delete double or triple posts you know wink
I guess by the time you bring back that Tuscan and do the work it will probably need then your into 20 to 25k.
Well done competing in the TVRCC Champ I bet that is real fun and swallows a fair bit of beer tokens but better spent on that than Beer IMOP I really would have a punt on SYD but I guess you wont be the only one.
As I am constantly reminded its not what you pay for a car its what it costs you that's the real issue
We see other TVR Models where a lot are run on a shoe string budget but it really is false economy and with the classics being in short supply the parts are not getting cheaper especially as the Donor cars that some of the parts came from are rising in value and the parts are getting harder to find and beg borrowing or stealing is no longer an option when restoring or maintaining these cars
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GTRene

16,505 posts

224 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Warwick67 said:
hi there, yes I guess buying a half decent car and developing it to that would probably cost about the same as buying it.... I currently run my Cerb in the TVRCC champ and the handicap system means that a relatively undeveloped car could probably give it a run for its money (with the same driver of course!). Doesn't cost anything to stick a bid in, unless you win of course!

That Tuscan is Aus looks ok, wonder what it would cost to ring it back over here?
from a quote a few years back in a Australia to UK thread>

said:
for a single car in a 20ft container. The price is approx 1400quid. On top of that I would have to pay an additonal 300quid for loading/offloading plus taxes so getting on for 2k plus taxes.
so if the price will nog go higher then the 11.000,-aus $ (about 6.000,-gbp) then it would very interesting me thinks.