Vixen 5 speed gearbox conversion

[ATE399J]

Dollyman1850 said:

My God Phil..Are you not a mechanic? You mean you don't race single seaters at Silverstone?? Didn't you study :Moments: at school.
N.

Actually, I'm an Aerospace Systems Engineer and I studied moments at University!

[phillpot]

Dollyman1850 said:

My God Phil Mike..Are you not a mechanic?

No, not professionally, just a bloke who can tell a "we need to get this running today improvisation" from a long term well engineered modification

[anonymous-user]

Adrian@ said:

DavidY said:

But the T5 has a dreadful gearchange compared with the Ford 4 speeder, so does it really improve the driving experience??

davidy (with tin hat on!!!)

David ...there are T5's AND T5's, (don't mention any other T...versions) and with it you cannot go cheap and cheerful, there are versions of the syncro rings that stall the gear change (making it SOOOOO SLLLOOOW), getting a 'known' gearbox is worth a fortune, because paying out, to sort the gearbox is stupid money, the problem is that opening a gearbox up and looking inside is beyond most peoples expertise, and the guys who know what they are doing know this!!

WITH the RIGHT internals the T5 IS better...IMHO of course...again,

Regarding both the type 9 and the T5 conversions, the guys who re-configure the differential ratio (spending the money doing the whole job properly and getting bigger 'rewards') will tell you this.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Tuesday 25th November 10:11

Agree with Adrian,
Good T5 is wonderful, a bad one dreadful.

If I was doing a Vixen, box would stay, weak diff would go and final drive (mph/1000) would be sorted by diff ratio change as part of the swap

[Dollyman1850]

ATE399J said:

Actually, I'm an Aerospace Systems Engineer and I studied moments at University!

University. You must have been a late developer…I was into Calculus at University
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[pete.reeve]

Nail in coffin come's to mind.

[tobsam]

prideaux said:

Well you obviously need glasses I have had various engineers and mechanics look at the conversion while I have had in on the ramp both at my local Garage for Mot which is my local Mercedes Garage where I buy my daily drivers and in my own garage and all have thought it was a very good conversion especially as it does not alter the original chassis so reversal is easy the proof of the conversion is in the Driving and those that have driven her are rather impressed in all directions
Maybe you can put some pictures up of your work and we can pull that apart sure you would enjoy that
Andrew

And there I was thinking that you just had a problem with me Andrew yet here you are again having a pop at anyone who has a differing opinion than your own.
I am sure every mechanic in the land is in awe of your wonderful mechanical skills. Oh sorry I forgot of course they are as you have already told us that

"Those that have driven her are rather impressed in all directions" Talk about blowing your own trumpet lol.

You certainly are the master at one thing and that is hijacking other members threads with your overpowering opinions.

[missingbadly999]

Am I in the wrong Forum? It's like a script for a TVR related episode of Eastenders. No ones said 'you slaaaag' yet but my money says it's coming up.

[tobsam]

prideaux said:

READ I did not rebuilt her you //////??????
No you don't have the monopoly on being an /////????????
There are a few however mostly there are a great bunch of guys that own these cars
That other persons as you call him is a good Friend and we both bought Vixens from Germany at the same time
Andrew

Edited by prideaux on Tuesday 25th November 19:47

You mean that "anyone who has a different opinion than yours", of which there are several.
Why do you always have to be so forceful and self opinionated with your comments. Let others have their say without always butting in.

Careful with the /////????????s as well.

[tobsam]

missingbadly999 said:

Am I in the wrong Forum? It's like a script for a TVR related episode of Eastenders. No ones said 'you slaaaag' yet but my money says it's coming up.

LOL. Is Andrew playing Dot Cotton?

[pete.reeve]

missingbadly999 said:

Am I in the wrong Forum? It's like a script for a TVR related episode of Eastenders. No ones said 'you slaaaag' yet but my money says it's coming up.

No it's the "Muppet" show.

[phillpot]

prideaux said:

Maybe you can put some pictures up of your work and we can pull that apart sure you would enjoy that
Andrew

Not really done much in the way of changes or mods to the Taimar but please feel free to search the "S Series Forum", you should find a few examples of my handy work, comments, suggestions, criticisms all welcome. After changing something it is often easy to look again (or a fresh pair of eyes to look) and think "yeah but next time I'd do this or change that"?

Subtle difference between slagging something off and constructive criticism.






PS guess I'm of the Christmas list?



ETA. found one to start with......

prideaux said:

alex_gray255 said:

Fantastic someone has gone the extra 100 miles not just a mile
I love it
A

[missingbadly999]

I know Christmas is near lads, but leave the panto to the men dressed as ladies let's not have it here. This was a cracking thread and gave me some good pointers in between the slingshot.

[RCK974X]

(From above)

Yeah, if someone was to say to me what's the first thing to change and the weakest link in the Vixen, I would probably say the diff. Those Spit/Herald/Vitesse diffs aren't up to "heavy" driving...

5 speed conversion - - If you find a box cheap, it's tempting, as it bolts straight onto a 1600, but then a 2000 OHC engine will pretty much bolt in too, so where does it stop ? And then onto the inevitable discussion on originality....

I reckon it's all down to individual choice really, and that's the way it should be.

[missingbadly999]

I think I'll go for it and start getting the parts. Nothing is quick here though - too many projects. It looks like Sierra box, rs2000 bell housing, adapt brackets or fit plate, rig up a slave or do an internal one and mull over the speedo calibration.
Cheers

[bluezeeland]

missingbadly999 said:

I think I'll go for it and start getting the parts. Nothing is quick here though - too many projects. It looks like Sierra box, rs2000 bell housing, adapt brackets or fit plate, rig up a slave or do an internal one and mull over the speedo calibration.
Cheers

Thats more like it ! Have fun and let us know how you get on

Frank

[Adrian@]

bluezeeland said:

Thats more like it ! Have fun and let us know how you get on

Frank

Yes, as I have a 174 BHP 1600 that has eaten the gearbox once and will need converting, the next time it needs doing.
Adrian@

[RCK974X]

Adrian,

174BHP - My understanding is that a type 9 isn't really up to that sort of power - but a type B is.
I guess the best solution is a T5 ??
Which way are you going ??

[anonymous-user]

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RCK974X said:

Adrian,

174BHP - My understanding is that a type 9 isn't really up to that sort of power - but a type B is.
I guess the best solution is a T5 ??
Which way are you going ??

Would you not fit a well built updated CR 4 speed box (I assume with a 174 Bhp 1.6, it won't be a road car)?

[Adrian@]

Hi John,
It will not be me who breaks this one! I can't change the gears that quick.
It is the only TO DO job on the car, it is close ratio 2000E box (it is the 3rd different gearbox in the car ...although ALSO, the 3rd evolution of the engine/gearbox, the other 2 were refreshed and are in customer 1600M's) the rest of the car has the 'dialed' in service points at zero as of the next MOT.
I just need to get it finished! put the earplugs in and drive it!
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 26th November 08:04

[anonymous-user]

Sounds good Adrian, I bet it will be a rewarding car to drive