FiA historic technical passport

FiA historic technical passport

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tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Has anyone obtained a FIA Historic Technical Passport for a 3000m. Trying to find out any difficulties on them approving the car?

supersloath1

17 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Was 3000m ever raced by factory?

Is it eligible for fia historic papers or is it like Griffith 200 not?

terenceb

1,488 posts

170 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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First off you need proof of the car competing in ANY International event in period.Not sure on the 200's standing at the moment, been a few years since being involved with the two and four hundreds.

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

148 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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this is interresting.

Do you think we could make a list with photos and proof to show what models have competed in International Rallies with FIA Approval.

Alan

DavidY

4,458 posts

283 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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M series cars were raced in Prodsports with factory backing, but that was definitely not international.

intermediate

176 posts

224 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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NO FIA for an M
only Griffith 400, MK3, 1800S

tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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So this is interesting the . So basically what we are saying is that the UK is not international?

Just googled the M for prodsports and there are old articles with pictures of M's racing... I wonder if they were raced elsewhere?

tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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So this is interesting the . So basically what we are saying is that the UK is not international?

Just googled the M for prodsports and there are old articles with pictures of M's racing... I wonder if they were raced elsewhere?

terenceb

1,488 posts

170 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Forgot to ad that htp's are only allowed for certain date restrictions, ie, cars registered before 1965 and so on.
The only reason that the Griffs were granted papers is becase of a photograph that had (allegedly) been taken of a car competing at Brands in (alleged) 1965.It was partially hidden by the known E-Type that was just in front of it, it was assumed to have been an "international" event because of the Jag being there.

madsvlund

345 posts

131 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I'm racing my M under the danish FIA organisation, but not with a FIA homologation. In dk can we get an "local approval" if the car can be documented to have raced at it's time, and is close enough to original spec's so the MOT will approve the car as "not being modified more than MOT rules at the first reg of the car"

The plan was to get a "one of" homologation of the car, in that way can the specific car join international events, but it seems like they never done that king of papers before, so it's going very slow with that case.


tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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From reading lot of blurb....it would appear that the Fia have lifted the year restriction to 1980 now for HTP. However I would ove to know anyone has any information of the M's participating in an event in the period with other FIA cars.

I feel quite strong that we should try to get our cars recognised with FIA so we can do international events with them.

Please post links articles or info you have that might help the group gain some creditability with the FIA and also it will add value to our cars too.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/...

The car driven by Stewart Halstead mentioned in the article is now mine, The car has been raced at SPA (but not in period I'm afraid)


urraco62

64 posts

194 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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"Appendix K" from FIA regulations

3.3.8 For non-homologated cars, the following evidence (given in order of
priority) may be admitted to prove period specification:

(a) Manufacturer’s specifications as evidenced by any of
the following: sales brochures, manufacturer’s handbook,
manufacturer’s workshop manual, manufacturer’s spare
parts list, road test magazines, all of which must have been
published in period.

(b) Evidence that a manufacturer’s specification was varied
for a Competitor in an international Competition. Any
manufacturer’s document, drawing, sketch or any specification
produced in period, or any magazine article produced in
period (specifications in magazines and periodicals of the
period must come from at least two sources).

(c) Reports from recognised experts who inspected the car.

(d) Of lesser value, but to which consideration will be given
in any specific query, will be books and magazine articles
written out of period by reputable authors. Recent letters written
by manufacturers, mechanics, engineers, designers, Drivers
and team members of the period may be considered for a
specific car.

(e) All evidence referred to in the above must refer to the model
in question

tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Ok I think we need a photo evidence of any of them racing in period.....I am going to apply for both MSA and FIA HTP guessing the later will take a while

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

148 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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go for it, good luck

dryden

361 posts

168 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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TVRMs said:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/...

The car driven by Stewart Halstead mentioned in the article is now mine, The car has been raced at SPA (but not in period I'm afraid)
Cor, that takes me back!.....:-)

terenceb

1,488 posts

170 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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tvrmallorca said:
Ok I think we need a photo evidence of any of them racing in period.....I am going to apply for both MSA and FIA HTP guessing the later will take a while
The papers the MSA are responsible for are FIA HTP.I wish you luck with this one. (Took me four years to get them on an HRG complete with full documented photographic history!)

Monsun

48 posts

134 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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I've got some photos of the ex Stewart Halstead 3000M taken at Croft in 1977 but in this case it seems they won't be of much use.

tvrmallorca

Original Poster:

265 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Monsoon... Any photos will be appreciated along with any news clippings of M's racing. My aim is to complete the historic Monte Carlo rally.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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tvrmallorca said:
Monsoon... Any photos will be appreciated along with any news clippings of M's racing. My aim is to complete the historic Monte Carlo rally.
http://www.pistonheads.com/tvr/m/racing.asp

My 3000M with John Kent at the wheel