Vixen split brake circuit - front/rear or diagonal.

Vixen split brake circuit - front/rear or diagonal.

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simonpa

Original Poster:

377 posts

283 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Just about to start on the solid brake tubing and will be using a dual-circuit master cylinder without the additional distributor module.

Should the split be front/back, or diagonal for each circuit, please?

Cheers - Simon

Slow M

2,737 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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simonpa said:
Just about to start on the solid brake tubing and will be using a dual-circuit master cylinder without the additional distributor module.

Should the split be front/back, or diagonal for each circuit, please?

Cheers - Simon
F/R

Best regards,
Bernard.

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Also check which output from your master cylinder is front and which is rear, from memory some are specifically built with two cylinder diameters to give brake bias.

simonpa

Original Poster:

377 posts

283 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Thanks both.

I hadn't considered the bias - good point.
I should expect the 'forward' connector to be for the rear as it would have to be the smaller diameter section of the master cylinder, but I will check.

I've gone for a new Land Rover m/c as it fits, has a sloping reservoir and will allow me to get a cap with float sensor in it.

Cheers - Simon

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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using a stepped master on such a car is a gamble.....

getting the bias right on non large-scale production car you will need "something" adjustable.

can you list what parts in your brake-system you have changed / uprated from the original setup to now?

Hansoplast

570 posts

160 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Simon,

Just look at Rimmerbros site, Triumph TR 2-5 and you will find all the details required.

Good luck.

Hans

simonpa

Original Poster:

377 posts

283 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Brakes are standard disk/M16 caliper at the front and TR6 cylinders/shoes at the rear.
Servo is a new TR6 unit.
Master cylinder is a new Landrover Series 3 unit - I think it has 15/16" bore.

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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what was the reason using this landrover master?

maybe this is any help for you:

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/dual_brake_con...


depending what type of cylinder you are using, front and rear outlets are different.

Edited by RochdaleGT on Tuesday 31st March 07:13

simonpa

Original Poster:

377 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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That's great info - thanks!

I've bought a LR 109 m/c, which appears to have a 2:1 front:rear volume output.
I'll check the specs on the original Triumph unit and see how they compare.

Nothing is fitted yet, so this is all very timely, thanks.


geeeman

1,310 posts

255 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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if you are running rear drums, and front discs, then a diagonal set up would be better i believe?

(on my g4 race car we tried f/r and it meant constantly having to adjust the rear shoes. diagonal is a much better set up now)

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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geeeman said:
if you are running rear drums, and front discs, then a diagonal set up would be better i believe?

(on my g4 race car we tried f/r and it meant constantly having to adjust the rear shoes. diagonal is a much better set up now)
Not if the M/C has a built in bias!

simonpa

Original Poster:

377 posts

283 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Indeed.

Also, I think the LR m/c is set to not fully release the pressure on the rear circuit in order to keep the shoes closer to the drums.

Hansoplast

570 posts

160 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Why not follow the original Triumph routing?
With WPA as securing front or rear pressure when parts of the system
fails?

the WPA can be connected in 2 ways. Splitsing Front/Rear or Left/Right.

Rimmerbros give all the details on his site.

Hansoplast.