1600 M washer bottle

[sonnylad]

Can anyone point me in the right direction for sourcing a replacement, new / secondhand / lookalike.

Thanks Russ

[Terminator]

Do you mean one of these?




And no, I have nothing to do with the person selling it!

[timelord]

The bottle on my early 1600M is the Tudor type as shown in Terminator's post, only not as shiney;) Geoff

[plasticpig72]

that looks the same type washer bottle for a Lotus Elan +2
Alan

[Dollyman1850]

prideaux said:

Just in case people get confused in the future when bringing up this thread the Vixen S2 did not have separate water bags in talking to the owner of an S2 recently who has owned it from new he confirmed that this was not the case and several others have confirmed this as well
A

Edited by prideaux on Saturday 19th September 21:34

The S2 vixen later in its life had a brake servo The early 75 variants had no servo. 3 Variations of bulkhead were used in shell construction over the S2's life. 2 types of floor were used in its construction over the model life. The S2 is the most common vixen variant…….quite a few had bag type water reservoirs. Some had bottles….
Adrian has known many S1, S2, S3 ands even S4 owners. he has also known people who have owned their cars from new.

So just so as not to confuse anyone……SOME S2 Vixens Had Bag type washer reservoirs FROM NEW.

I am pretty sure Both of these cars despite being early and late in vixen series 2 production had bags from new..



(they don't have bags now)…

One has a natty little non original plastic bottle £9 from car builder solutions….

Edited by Dollyman1850 on Sunday 20th September 07:40

Edited by Dollyman1850 on Sunday 20th September 07:41

[Adrian@]

Pridaeux, (or Andrew Gray as he has changed his profile name now) thankyou for accusing me of a miss leading statement.
I would if I 'owned' them, use the pictures of the rebuilds I have done (as they are owned by my customers...8.9 MiB and some 130 folders of pictures) dating back to the purchase of my first digital camera in 1991 (a Kodak DC210) which includes ONLY, TVR's from Grantura Mk2 through to Chimaera rebuilds, THEN I have digital pictures of almost ALL the work I have done which includes every model in between, (it is what I do as part of my business).
BUT, I have seen the mounting bracket, mounted on the inner wing 'not being used' and taken them off filled the holes in the inner wing more times than I care to mention.
I also happen to know and trust lots of owners that have the over their ownership collated details on EVERY aspect of their ownership down to the very last amount of fuel they have ever put in! they do not frequent PH as writers of post (as the aggressive, abrasive format is not to their liking) but, would happily post details to me to correct a miss leading point (not one on this subject though).
I like to think I can trust these owners to pull me up if I am wrong (BUT it is not life or death situation that needs the assassination of a persons statement) also, these people WILL have the written facts to back up their point.

AGAIN, you do not need to answer this, as it is not on topic.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 09:41

[Adrian@]

prideaux said:

As this is on topic I shall reply
As your the only Global expert that uses Piston Heads as a Marketing forum for there activities then its important that the facts are fully correct otherwise we will end up with cars that are OE or Exactly@ oe this is confusing when in future new owners use the forum for reference.

Other Experts which there are many despite there absence from this forum confirm that other parts where used by the factory in this application.
Apologies if you see this as being critical its simply to avoid confusion by others in the future
Andrew

Pridaeux (or Andrew Gray as he has changed his profile name now)...As usual with you, this appears NOW, to be a life and death argument, that now you feel the need to statement make, that I am 'using' PH as a marketing medium, and that I have an agenda to make the cars different from what they were when they left the factory, as such MY spec. It would be laughable, but from past experience this is a serious matter that I feel you need supporting in.
I am sure that the mods will correct me and reign me in, if I do cross the line, (which they have done in the past, ONCE! in 3381 posts) and they do not need you 'building' a case against me.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 10:25

[Hansoplast]

Oooops.

I still like classic TVR's in all its forms, but not worth fighting for.

Hans

[Big Al.]

prideaux said:

As this is on topic I shall reply
As your the only Global expert that uses Piston Heads as a Marketing forum for there activities then its important that the facts are fully correct otherwise we will end up with cars that are OE or Exactly@ oe this is confusing when in future new owners use the forum for reference.

Other Experts which there are many despite there absence from this forum confirm that other parts where used by the factory in this application.
Apologies if you see this as being critical its simply to avoid confusion by others in the future
Andrew

Guys please give it a rest, your continued bickering is becoming bloody tiresome to say the least. If you wish to continue fine please do it away from the forums as it's not wanted here.

If anyone breaches any of the rules of posting, posts will be removed/edited and words may be had with offenders. If you see something that you think is in breach of the rules report it and we'll sort.

So let's draw a line under this now and move on.

Thanking you both in advance.

[Andrew Gray]

Adrian@ said:

As someone pointed this picture at me..so pinched from another thread on here, a modern day V8 installed, but the original washer bottle bag sat on the inner wing.





There other experts with other opinions, despite there absence from this forum, please don't take my word for anything I say...I just happen to 'think' I know a lot about TVR's. ALL my posts will be deleted at a later date as part of my keeping my PH profile to minimum...peace and goodwill. if you feel the need to quote me please delete the spoiler. Adrian@

Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 09:51

Here is another example of a car however this car is not a Modified example it is an OE restoration starting with an unmolested example a number of years ago and restored to OE spec however this Marque expert has not fully restored 51 TVRs as a complete restoration takes between 6 and 18 months even for a professional and he is not old enough to of achieved that number however has restored many examples from Granturas to Griffiths Vixens and M series cars as well as other British sports cars.
In talking with those that where at the factory during the S2 build period they can confirm that there where variations between the cars due to supply issues so both where used at various stages and maybe even a third variation.



A
No need for a Spoiler on this one

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 11:58

[Dollyman1850]

Andrew Gray said:

Adrian@ said:

As someone pointed this picture at me..so pinched from another thread on here, a modern day V8 installed, but the original washer bottle bag sat on the inner wing.





There other experts with other opinions, despite there absence from this forum, please don't take my word for anything I say...I just happen to 'think' I know a lot about TVR's. ALL my posts will be deleted at a later date as part of my keeping my PH profile to minimum...peace and goodwill. if you feel the need to quote me please delete the spoiler. Adrian@

Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 09:51

Here is another example of a car however this car is not a Modified example it is an OE restoration starting with an unmolested example a number of years ago and restored to OE spec however this Marque expert has not fully restored 51 TVRs as a complete restoration takes between 6 and 18 months even for a professional and he is not old enough to of achieved that number however has restored many examples from Granturas to Griffiths Vixens and M series cars as well as other British sports cars.
In talking with those that where at the factory during the S2 build period they can confirm that there where variations between the cars due to supply issues so both where used at various stages and maybe even a third variation.



A
No need for a Spoiler on this one

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 11:58

Must Be a late OE wheel arch-less model as supplied to the US Market!…Unable to fit the twin bag brackets on those ones so they reverted to a bottle.
I wonder if like many the wheel arches have been re-fitted.
N.

[Andrew Gray]

Dollyman1850 said:

Andrew Gray said:

Adrian@ said:

As someone pointed this picture at me..so pinched from another thread on here, a modern day V8 installed, but the original washer bottle bag sat on the inner wing.





There other experts with other opinions, despite there absence from this forum, please don't take my word for anything I say...I just happen to 'think' I know a lot about TVR's. ALL my posts will be deleted at a later date as part of my keeping my PH profile to minimum...peace and goodwill. if you feel the need to quote me please delete the spoiler. Adrian@

Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 09:51

Here is another example of a car however this car is not a Modified example it is an OE restoration starting with an unmolested example a number of years ago and restored to OE spec however this Marque expert has not fully restored 51 TVRs as a complete restoration takes between 6 and 18 months even for a professional and he is not old enough to of achieved that number however has restored many examples from Granturas to Griffiths Vixens and M series cars as well as other British sports cars.
In talking with those that where at the factory during the S2 build period they can confirm that there where variations between the cars due to supply issues so both where used at various stages and maybe even a third variation.



A
No need for a Spoiler on this one

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 11:58

Must Be a late OE wheel arch-less model as supplied to the US Market!…Unable to fit the twin bag brackets on those ones so they reverted to a bottle.
I wonder if like many the wheel arches have been re-fitted.
N.

No Neil
The wheel arches as you well know where originally with the car however for show purposes they are often left off to enable the uneducated to see the set up and in a Dry state they really are not needed however I believe now fitted
Andrew

Birds of a feather Flock together

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 18:02

[Dollyman1850]

Andrew Gray said:

Dollyman1850 said:

Andrew Gray said:

Adrian@ said:

As someone pointed this picture at me..so pinched from another thread on here, a modern day V8 installed, but the original washer bottle bag sat on the inner wing.





There other experts with other opinions, despite there absence from this forum, please don't take my word for anything I say...I just happen to 'think' I know a lot about TVR's. ALL my posts will be deleted at a later date as part of my keeping my PH profile to minimum...peace and goodwill. if you feel the need to quote me please delete the spoiler. Adrian@

Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 5th October 09:51

Here is another example of a car however this car is not a Modified example it is an OE restoration starting with an unmolested example a number of years ago and restored to OE spec however this Marque expert has not fully restored 51 TVRs as a complete restoration takes between 6 and 18 months even for a professional and he is not old enough to of achieved that number however has restored many examples from Granturas to Griffiths Vixens and M series cars as well as other British sports cars.
In talking with those that where at the factory during the S2 build period they can confirm that there where variations between the cars due to supply issues so both where used at various stages and maybe even a third variation.



A
No need for a Spoiler on this one

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 11:58

Must Be a late OE wheel arch-less model as supplied to the US Market!…Unable to fit the twin bag brackets on those ones so they reverted to a bottle.
I wonder if like many the wheel arches have been re-fitted.
N.

No Neil
The wheel arches as you well know where originally with the car however for show purposes they are often left off to enable the uneducated to see the set up and in a Dry state they really are not needed however I believe now fitted
Andrew

Birds of a feather Flock together

Edited by Andrew Gray on Monday 5th October 18:02

And yet the picture doesn't show any fixing points..
Number of other detail discrepancies too. I am assuming these were also left missing to allow enthusiasts to view other obscured parts on the fastidious OE restoration.
N

[dryden]

My old 77 Taimar had a bag, fitted on the O/S wheelarch just half an inch above the exhaust manifold! It made me laugh, but I never changed it! Must have been original, I doubt anyone would have changed it from a bottle......