Tuscan V8 SE Spec US cars

Tuscan V8 SE Spec US cars

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davepen

1,460 posts

270 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Interesting picture in today's TVRCC "SPRINT", 1968 car outside Hoo Hill works before shipping to NY Motorshow...

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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MAL013 auction is this Sunday - anyone looking to repatriate her?

Here are some excellent photo's of the chassis and underside if anyone is interested :

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/csf0r850jxgipy7/AACaovb...

Moto

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Moto said:
MAL013 auction is this Sunday - anyone looking to repatriate her?

Here are some excellent photo's of the chassis and underside if anyone is interested :

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/csf0r850jxgipy7/AACaovb...

Moto
The trouble is auctions are normally inaccessible to many interested punters, let alone as far away from the UK as you can get!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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An honest representation. Looks like it will need some time / money spending to make it an all round nice car .

Chassis coating is breaking down, cheap shocks and cherry bombs maybe tell a story?

Will it break $100K though?

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 November 14:42

Andrew Gray

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4,969 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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TVRMs said:
An honest representation. Looks like it will need some time / money spending to make it an all round nice car .

Chassis coating is breaking down, cheap shocks and cherry bombs maybe tell a story?

Will it break $100K though?

Edited by TVRMs on Tuesday 22 November 14:42
Yes a very honest representation and does need money spending on her the chassis has more issues than i would have expected over there in Australia
Fiberglass Bumpers if i am not mistaken as they are strayed silver although mine had one Fiberglass so all where sprayed when i got her

Will be interesting to see what she makes its well represented so will have a Global Market i am sure

Andrew

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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The chassis is not Bonded?
N.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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A rear ARB bolted through the body and some suspicious square section tubing...hmm.

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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It has been very fairly marketed. They have even had a mechanical report produced which is clearly genuine and helpful if you're going to bid without viewing first.

If anyone wants a copy PM me

Moto



Edited by Moto on Tuesday 22 November 17:02

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I am just not sure its what it is supposed to be. If the non std repairs are documented then fair enough but the car should be a round tube and fully bonded to body if it was the real deal. In fairness a lot of water has passed under the bridge but I would want to see a continuous trail of history. Lots of things in those pics just don't ring true!

N.

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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It's clearly had a lot of work carried out over the last few decades which may be good or not so good. It also will need some work over the coming years to get some things sorted. I guess it will come down to what price someone is willing to pay - it'll be interesting. The $100k suggestion (assuming US$) I'd be surprised if it fetched anything like that. If we're going to have a sweep stake (no stake though) I'll go for £40k.

Neil, re the bonded chassis. Isn't that to be expected as I thought (possibly wrongly) that most rebuilders of bonded models modified them to bolt on for ease of future work?

Moto


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I would wager £35k, maybe lower. The photos will alert serious money to look elsewhere as if the body has been off and modified then the chassis should have been done to a goood standard not a few box sections fitted in, it just doesn't go with the car. Nice paint job but it appears from the documents it was blue originally if I'm reading German correctly.

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Moto said:
It's clearly had a lot of work carried out over the last few decades which may be good or not so good. It also will need some work over the coming years to get some things sorted. I guess it will come down to what price someone is willing to pay - it'll be interesting. The $100k suggestion (assuming US$) I'd be surprised if it fetched anything like that. If we're going to have a sweep stake (no stake though) I'll go for £40k.

Neil, re the bonded chassis. Isn't that to be expected as I thought (possibly wrongly) that most rebuilders of bonded models modified them to bolt on for ease of future work?

Moto
They do. but that body doesn't look like it has been cut off, modified and bolted back to me??

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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the chassis has more issues than i would have expected over there in Australia
Andrew
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Andrew, bear in mind that the car was in The American Mid West for the first 20+ years of it's life, then in Norfolk/South Yorkshire as a race car, and more recently somewhere in mainland Europe. Not sure how long it has been in the dry southern hemisphere.

Oliver.

Andrew Gray

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4,969 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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As for it being Bolted not Bonded body that does not surprise me as we know all the LW V8 Chassis where bonded but from what i have found not all MAL chassis V8 ones where i have no idea of when they stopped but from what i have found some of the later MAL numbers seem to be bolted on
Its a period where there was a lot going on with the factory
Andrew

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Andrew Gray said:
As for it being Bolted not Bonded body that does not surprise me as we know all the LW V8 Chassis where bonded but from what i have found not all MAL chassis V8 ones where i have no idea of when they stopped but from what i have found some of the later MAL numbers seem to be bolted on
Its a period where there was a lot going on with the factory
Andrew
Perhaps you could list the MAL chassis numbers with Bolted Bodies to see a correlation regarding a production cut off date?
As far as I am concerned a bolted car means it has either been restored or it isn't what it purports to be unless of course there is documented evidence proving otherwise?

N.

davepen

1,460 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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USTVRDUDE said:
I'm guessing that you all have seen this?

I think this was produced when MAL010 was for sale. Shows Bonded and Bolted.

Andrew Gray

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4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
Andrew Gray said:
As for it being Bolted not Bonded body that does not surprise me as we know all the LW V8 Chassis where bonded but from what i have found not all MAL chassis V8 ones where i have no idea of when they stopped but from what i have found some of the later MAL numbers seem to be bolted on
Its a period where there was a lot going on with the factory
Andrew
Perhaps you could list the MAL chassis numbers with Bolted Bodies to see a correlation regarding a production cut off date?
As far as I am concerned a bolted car means it has either been restored or it isn't what it purports to be unless of course there is documented evidence proving otherwise?

N.
Thats where the issue seems to be with the MAL non wide bodied cars Neil the records are sketchy hence why Guy did his research and wrote his paper.
However he does not document bolt on or not he lists wide body and Vixen/Tuscan bodied.
Where i have spoken with owners some where and some where not.
When i spoke to some connected with the factory the they had stopped doing the Tuscan V8 here however there was a demand in the USA and they filled that demand back then customers would not have cared if they where bonded on bolted on just as long as they where on and the speck seemed to vary as they where run on cars some gained spec like the Door arm rests some lost spec and trim bits that you would expect on a V8SE car however like all TVRs Continuous History is important when deciding is the car what it says it is.
Andrew


Richardduv

8 posts

89 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Hi, I have not not posted here before, but have been reading this with interest. In 1972 I bought from John Britten Sportscars, who used to be TVR dealers in Hertfordshire, a 1968 Tuscan V8 SE reg no LFV 615F. The car was Aubergine with gold centred minilites. I owned the car for about two years and used it as my daily transport and have always remembered it as a great car, with very fond memories. I part-exchanged the car with Gerry Marshall, who apart from his motor racing, part owned a sportscar showroom in North London called Marshall Wingfield. I have checked on the DVLA site and that reg. number is probably not still on the car as it shows as no records available. I have often wondered what happened to it and if anyone here has seen or heard of it since then I would be really interested to hear. Many thanks Richard

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Wait for it.....

RobMk2a

432 posts

131 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Richardduv said:
Hi, I have not not posted here before, but have been reading this with interest. In 1972 I bought from John Britten Sportscars, who used to be TVR dealers in Hertfordshire, a 1968 Tuscan V8 SE reg no LFV 615F. The car was Aubergine with gold centred minilites. I owned the car for about two years and used it as my daily transport and have always remembered it as a great car, with very fond memories. I part-exchanged the car with Gerry Marshall, who apart from his motor racing, part owned a sportscar showroom in North London called Marshall Wingfield. I have checked on the DVLA site and that reg. number is probably not still on the car as it shows as no records available. I have often wondered what happened to it and if anyone here has seen or heard of it since then I would be really interested to hear. Many thanks Richard
Richard - do you have any photos also do you remember the chassis number.

Rob