Aurelius's question No 1

Aurelius's question No 1

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
The GT6 diff is fine, even more so the one with stronger carriers and the Vixen is a lighter car
For a GT6 perhaps.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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TVRMs said:
For a GT6 perhaps.
Has anyone heard of a Vixen wrecking a diff?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
TVRMs said:
For a GT6 perhaps.
Has anyone heard of a Vixen wrecking a diff?
Wrecking a standard GT6 diff, yes.?

I don't think mine was the first either.

Surprised you sound surprised???

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Yes I'm surprised -what engine did you have and how was it wrecked?

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
Yes I'm surprised -what engine did you have and how was it wrecked?
Probably a slightly warmed over vixen!! wink



anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
V6Pushfit said:
Yes I'm surprised -what engine did you have and how was it wrecked?
Probably a slightly warmed over vixen!! wink

Haha. So owners of the roadgoing variety with less than 150HP (so 95%) should be fine with the standard GT6 diff. Otherwise its like telling a DeLorean owner they arent any good without this mod:


Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Yes in the 70s a friend of mine had a Vixen as his Daily Driver and he went through 3 diffs on his Vixen so not uncommon
Andrew

tomtrout

595 posts

163 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Something's got to be the weakest link in the drive train and for the Vixen it's highly likely to be the diff. That said, the old Triumph unit is still readily available, cheap as chips and only takes an a couple of hours to swap if you bust it. I fully accept that for competition work you don't want something that you know to be fragile but for road work I can't see the problem, even if your engine is punching out a bit more power than the original Truimph 6 pot. As a young lad I had a mk2 GT6 (not the best handling car I've ever driven) and I did my best to break it but failed miserably. A bus finished it off in the end! I guess if you have a hot engine and are hell bent on pulling away with lots of wheel spin on every occasion then you may well have to think about your diff choice. For me it's not an issue.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
V6Pushfit said:
Yes I'm surprised -what engine did you have and how was it wrecked?
Probably a slightly warmed over vixen!! wink
It was Linda's car Neil. 110-115 BHP, road use only so...not murdered on a circuit. Crown wheel and pinion failure to engage was cause of death. Diff was a weak link recognised by folk in the day, but in those days discussions were face to face...

More folk were getting on with running their day to day transport, fewer folk trying to prove they knew "stuff" wink

Never mind eh.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th November 18:59


Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th November 20:10

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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TVRMs said:
Dollyman1850 said:
V6Pushfit said:
Yes I'm surprised -what engine did you have and how was it wrecked?
Probably a slightly warmed over vixen!! wink
110-115 BHP, road use only so...not murdered on a circuit. Crown wheel and pinion failure to engage was cause of death.
In the days when these cars were properly used wink

The spitfire diff is as weak as dishwater. That said it will always be plenty strong enough for cars which are infrequently used…
N.

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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I trashed the diff in my Vixen too, and I think that was before the 711M engine with hot cam and twin 40s went in. Pretty sure Steve Reid told me that the guy I sold the car to had replaced the second hand one I put in with one with some nice Quaife bits in.

Oliver.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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TVRMs said:
folk trying to prove they knew "stuff" wink
Yes it's a dangerous thing here giving an opinion when there's someone that 'knows' different smile

ATE399J

729 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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tomtrout said:
A bus finished it off in the end!
If you put the diff in a bus I'm not surprised it broke.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
TVRMs said:
folk trying to prove they knew "stuff" wink
Yes it's a dangerous thing here giving an opinion when there's someone that 'knows' different smile
I've had a Vixen.

It lunched it's diff. That wasn't an opinion.

It wasn't/isn't unusual and that seems to be backed up by others after my post?

If you have other experience, why not share it?

Maybe I'm becoming paranoid, but it seems everything I post you snipe at. I'm a simple being and I react - sorry.

If you have a problem with me, please let me know. I can be considered as well as sarcastic and if I know there is a problem I can temper my responses, probably to the benefit of the forum smile







Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 30th November 07:08

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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I said the GT6 diff is fine on my Vixen which is correct, that's all. Your opinion that I was purporting to 'know stuff' and being patronising just because you believe otherwise isn't necessary.
Anyway moving on smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
I said the GT6 diff is fine on my Vixen which is correct, that's all. Your opinion that I was purporting to 'know stuff' and being patronising just because you believe otherwise isn't necessary.
Anyway moving on smile
I don't recollect you mentioning your Vixen, and I always thought you were a V6 person - as I don't think I know you.

The back to the future snipe tipped me over the edge in terms of folk being patronising. smile

Happy to move on and don't want to have the last word. smile

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

149 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Maybe if you keep UJ's in the drive shafts you will save and prolong the life of your Triumph Diff biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Alan

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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The DeLorean wasnt meant offend it was a humorous comment on the trend on posts that lean towards race applications being the way to go on road cars. The Vixen is the mild car so it's staying relatively that way (at the moment!)
No harm done

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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When i got my Vixen my Friend locally who drove a Vixen as his daily driver in the 70s and had to change his a few times and like David y rummaged through scrap yards (oh i wish they still existed) and got replacements.
He warned me that they where a weak point.
I said well if it goes it goes just fit another.
As most know my Vixen gets good use and not exactly slow driving and about 8000 miles in my care and so far no issues.
I spoke with Alan bell last night who re built her 7 years ago and he just fitted what came with the car but added an oil drain point and good quality oil.
It may well have been uprated inside but Alan does not know he just fitted new seals.
Some drive there cars trying not to break them however i tend to drive the opposite if it brakes then i have had the fun paid the price and move on.
Maybe in period there was a lot of rubbish Diffs out there and as they re built them or later ones they where improved who knows but i dont hear of many breaking them these days but most cars are not getting a lot of use Sadly.
Andrew

tomtrout

595 posts

163 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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The DeLorean pic certainly made me smile, as did the comment regarding me putting my diff into a bus! What didn't amuse me is the constant trend on this forum for folks to rubbish other peoples views. Of course we won't agree, it would be boring as hell if we did but surely we can all respect the fact that people come to classic TVR from many different angles and therefore will have contrasting experiences and opinions.

Does it really matter that much that some only want to preserve and polish whilst others want to modify and race? Opinions and views are never right or wrong, they are just opinions but its a shame that some of us feel we constantly have to tread on egg shells for fear of getting ridiculed.

One of the joys of a forum like this should be about helping those who might be new to old TVRs and have a problem, or who are looking for ideas and are looking for an opportunity to be able to openly share their own experiences and aspirations for their car. It shouldn't matter if you are hugely experienced and an engineering wizard, or if like me you are an enthusiastic amateur and are relatively new to the marque. Perhaps we might encourage others to be more involved in sharing their own experiences if we were a tad more inclusive on this forum. God, I'm turning into my Dad!