Vixen suspension, how difficult can it be. :(
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phazed said:
Had a call from Avo today.
My very stiff dampers were confirmed as being valved,................very stiff!
So, they have been valved as standard and I am expecting good things!
Just gotta pick up my refurbed wheels and fit my new tyres.
Looking Great and the air should stay in much better My very stiff dampers were confirmed as being valved,................very stiff!
So, they have been valved as standard and I am expecting good things!
Just gotta pick up my refurbed wheels and fit my new tyres.
Andrew
My four dampers were returned from Avo on Friday suitably re-valved to a softer standard setting.
I assembled these with the 80lb springs and fitted them to the car. I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level.
I fitted the newly refurbished wheels which look brilliant especially now that they have been shod with a set of Vredestein tyres.
The proof was in the pudding and I took it for a spin. Gone is the kangarooIng from an exceptionally firm damped set up and now the car drives well although surprisingly still firm given the low spring rates that are fitted.
All in all, a positive afternoons work with the weird suspension problem solved.
I assembled these with the 80lb springs and fitted them to the car. I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level.
I fitted the newly refurbished wheels which look brilliant especially now that they have been shod with a set of Vredestein tyres.
The proof was in the pudding and I took it for a spin. Gone is the kangarooIng from an exceptionally firm damped set up and now the car drives well although surprisingly still firm given the low spring rates that are fitted.
All in all, a positive afternoons work with the weird suspension problem solved.
phazed said:
My four dampers were returned from Avo on Friday suitably re-valved to a softer standard setting.
I assembled these with the 80lb springs and fitted them to the car. I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level.
I fitted the newly refurbished wheels which look brilliant especially now that they have been shod with a set of Vredestein tyres.
The proof was in the pudding and I took it for a spin. Gone is the kangarooIng from an exceptionally firm damped set up and now the car drives well although surprisingly still firm given the low spring rates that are fitted.
All in all, a positive afternoons work with the weird suspension problem solved.
Very good choice of tyre…Nice sidewall and a more classic tread pattern and fantastic all weather grip.I assembled these with the 80lb springs and fitted them to the car. I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level.
I fitted the newly refurbished wheels which look brilliant especially now that they have been shod with a set of Vredestein tyres.
The proof was in the pudding and I took it for a spin. Gone is the kangarooIng from an exceptionally firm damped set up and now the car drives well although surprisingly still firm given the low spring rates that are fitted.
All in all, a positive afternoons work with the weird suspension problem solved.
N.
[quote=phazed]Hi Pete. Interested to know anything about the cars past if you could let me know?
I don't know anything before Perry the last owner had it.[/q
The shocks came of my car before it was turned into a race car.
And sold to Perry about a year ago. Perry knows more about the car than me.
All the best
Pete
Look up from some years ago
TVRCC Forum - Vixen S3 Suspension Woes
I don't know anything before Perry the last owner had it.[/q
The shocks came of my car before it was turned into a race car.
And sold to Perry about a year ago. Perry knows more about the car than me.
All the best
Pete
Look up from some years ago
TVRCC Forum - Vixen S3 Suspension Woes
I'm interested in your comment 'I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level'
I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
Fiscracer said:
I'm interested in your comment 'I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level'
I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
You'll start considering fuel levels in the tank in a bit Richard….I think levelling up and setting some base settings for a road car is fine…I have never corner weighted my work diesel Passatt!! I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
N.
Dollyman1850 said:
Fiscracer said:
I'm interested in your comment 'I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level'
I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
You'll start considering fuel levels in the tank in a bit Richard….I think levelling up and setting some base settings for a road car is fine…I have never corner weighted my work diesel Passatt!! I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
N.
TVRMs said:
Dollyman1850 said:
Fiscracer said:
I'm interested in your comment 'I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level'
I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
You'll start considering fuel levels in the tank in a bit Richard….I think levelling up and setting some base settings for a road car is fine…I have never corner weighted my work diesel Passatt!! I've spent many evenings on a variety of cars using corner weight gauges to ensure the corner weights are as close as possible. Quite difficult when you sit so close to the rear offside wheel, especially if you're a big bloke. The cars do not sit flat afterwards. I guess it depends whether you want handling or aesthetics when parked.
N.
Fiscracer said:
I'm interested in your comment 'I then spent a while levelling up all four corners until the car sat level'
Exactly as stated.When the suspension was fitted the car was very much out of level. I then spent some time adjusting the spring seats of the dampers so that I had 110 mm under the nearside corner plates and about 113 mm under the offside corner plates .
This gave the car a very level look as well as producing a little bit of additional height on the drivers side to allow for my weight in the car when driven solo.
I take your point about corner weighting especially when applied to track car, but for this little car given that I am still experimenting with settings, what I have done is more than adequate and probably better than most cars are set up!
As a habitual track dayer and occasional sprinter I set up my chimaera in exactly the same way.
The car has had four wheel alignment but not corner weighting. It really is a fantastic handling car and whether corner weighting would make any noticeable differance is I believe debatable.
One day, I might.....................
QBee said:
Even though I have had the car both 4 wheel aligned and corner weighted by Mat Smith, the latter with half a tank of fuel and me on board, I still find that it handles best around a race track with a passenger occupying the other seat. 
Well that is probably because the corner weights are more even with a passengerphazed said:
Exactly as stated.
When the suspension was fitted the car was very much out of level. I then spent some time adjusting the spring seats of the dampers so that I had 110 mm under the nearside corner plates and about 113 mm under the offside corner plates .
This gave the car a very level look as well as producing a little bit of additional height on the drivers side to allow for my weight in the car when driven solo.
I take your point about corner weighting especially when applied to track car, but for this little car given that I am still experimenting with settings, what I have done is more than adequate and probably better than most cars are set up!
As a habitual track dayer and occasional sprinter I set up my chimaera in exactly the same way.
The car has had four wheel alignment but not corner weighting. It really is a fantastic handling car and whether corner weighting would make any noticeable differance is I believe debatable.
One day, I might.....................
As I said it all depends whether you want parked up aesthetics or optimum handling. When the suspension was fitted the car was very much out of level. I then spent some time adjusting the spring seats of the dampers so that I had 110 mm under the nearside corner plates and about 113 mm under the offside corner plates .
This gave the car a very level look as well as producing a little bit of additional height on the drivers side to allow for my weight in the car when driven solo.
I take your point about corner weighting especially when applied to track car, but for this little car given that I am still experimenting with settings, what I have done is more than adequate and probably better than most cars are set up!
As a habitual track dayer and occasional sprinter I set up my chimaera in exactly the same way.
The car has had four wheel alignment but not corner weighting. It really is a fantastic handling car and whether corner weighting would make any noticeable differance is I believe debatable.
One day, I might.....................
If you are happy with what you've done that's fair enough. I wonder how quickly my 1800cc Grantura would see off your Chimaera on track?
ClassicChimaera said:
Fiscracer said:
Well that is probably because the corner weights are more even with a passenger
If your cars been corner weighted with fuel and driver,,, won't it be out of balance with a passenger, not the other way ? Edited by ClassicChimaera on Saturday 28th January 08:22
I suspect that the extra weight in the car may also have something to do with improving stability.
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