Could this be done on a 3000M

Could this be done on a 3000M

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Colin L

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1,242 posts

268 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Hi, just wondering, have missed my old '78 3000M lately and after not driving one for a 8 years now, just have that feeling of going back to some real TVR motoring, with me getting my hands dirty again.

Would it be possible to build a 3000M were the uprights were from a Griff / Chim, fit a T5 box and a new V6 Ford cosworth engine, running drive shafts and diff from Griff / Chim and brakes etc, then would 15" rims fit all round.

Now I know wishbones etc would need to be made to measure and I can get this done easy enough.

What steering rack could be used and would Tuscan seats fit inside.

See I have been dreaming of my perfect M, for a while now, oh yes not to mention a roll cage fitted as well.

Any thoughts guys,

Colin L

Could be coming back from the Chimaera....

GAjon

3,736 posts

214 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Why not get a griff/tuscan/chim whatever and make an M body fit it? It may be easier.


Oh forgot to say, hello Colin how are you keeping?

John.

Edited by GAjon on Monday 16th April 18:55

davidy

4,459 posts

285 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Colin

Anything can be done with time and money!

But...you may be better looking at modifying a 3000M shell to fit on a Griff/Chimaera chassis!

I suspect the problem you will have with either route is that the 3000M track is probably considerably narrower than a Griff/Chimaera one.

Tuscan seats should fit as I I know one 1600M that had Griffith seats fitted.

davidy

davidy

4,459 posts

285 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Ha Ha John, great minds think alike, an Modsorts style M series shell could look very groovy!

davidy

adrian@

4,313 posts

283 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Surely that is called an S...with a fast back hard top.
Adrian@

Edited by adrian@ on Monday 16th April 19:32

GAjon

3,736 posts

214 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Now I don't want to cause a rumpus, but wouldn’t you say the M chassis and especially the rear suspension was superior to the S, which I believe was trailing arm as opposed to independent wishbones?


Any way Adrian, how have you got time to go on the internet, you should be mixing paint.





Edited by GAjon on Monday 16th April 19:52

adrian@

4,313 posts

283 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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OK I can go with that ...tramping arm, perhaps.....busy, busy, busy.
Adrian@

electron

605 posts

220 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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5000M would be easier ....

The 302 is a narrow V8 so fits between the 3000M rails. The $ exchange rate also makes 302's very cost effective .....

$5k dollars gets you a 410bhp cast iron long block with alloy trickflow heads, roller rockers, decent cam + steel crank stroked out to 331ci with forged pistons including freight (but not duty). Same weight as an Essex lump ......


GAjon

3,736 posts

214 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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You see Colin, there's loads of reasons to come back to the fold. You know it makes sense.

pomohon

19 posts

211 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Add a paxton with just 10 lbs boost to that 331 and its just incredibly powerful.Incredibly. DJ

electron

605 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Perhaps a Dart Alloy 302 block to go with the Paxton :-)

Colin L

Original Poster:

1,242 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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John, how did you let Bernie leave the fold, he's a Griff driver now.

YES plenty of options and plenty of reasons, but really the challenge is part of the process. What a pleasure it is to build a car the way you want it.

Never thought of putting a M body on a Chimaera chassis, thats a new thought and maybe it worth some real thinking about.

Thanks for the thoughts, now to find a project chassis then body shell but what one??

Cheers,
Colin L


Edited by Colin L on Tuesday 17th April 13:05

GAjon

3,736 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Colin, do you think I've gone to small with my new wheels






Edited by GAjon on Tuesday 17th April 18:37

oliverb205

705 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Yes, that's taking the Euro look a bit too far. But the turning circle should be much improved...

Oliver.

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Colin L said:
John, how did you let Bernie leave the fold, he's a Griff driver now.

YES plenty of options and plenty of reasons, but really the challenge is part of the process. What a pleasure it is to build a car the way you want it.

Never thought of putting a M body on a Chimaera chassis, thats a new thought and maybe it worth some real thinking about.

Thanks for the thoughts, now to find a project chassis then body shell but what one??

Cheers,
Colin L


Edited by Colin L on Tuesday 17th April 13:05



So bernie sold out!! got rid of a proper car and bought a griff. Is he still an ARSE though?

Geoff and Reidy will be out at Snetterton this weekend with yours truly spannering, check out the fat bastard at the back of the car.

As for Project, Hmmm, Vixen with new chassis built by Banners, Adrian Venn uprights... go on you know you want to.

Neil










Edited by heightswitch on Tuesday 17th April 21:54

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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GAjon said:
Now I don't want to cause a rumpus, but wouldn’t you say the M chassis and especially the rear suspension was superior to the S, which I believe was trailing arm as opposed to independent wishbones?

Wasn't that modified on the V8S?

adrian@

4,313 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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JR said:
GAjon said:
Now I don't want to cause a rumpus, but wouldn’t you say the M chassis and especially the rear suspension was superior to the S, which I believe was trailing arm as opposed to independent wishbones?

Wasn't that modified on the V8S?

Hi All
No, the V8S was the same old S with a wider track using an extended trailing arm. The just V8 rips it's way out of the chassis!
Adrian@

Edited by adrian@ on Wednesday 18th April 12:14

Colin L

Original Poster:

1,242 posts

268 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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No, the V8S was the same old S with a wider track using an extended trailing arm. The just V8 rips it's way out of the chassis!
Adrian@

Edited by adrian@ on Wednesday 18th April 12:14
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Always wondered about that V8 heading up the road and shell being left behind.

Adrian, do you have a disc brake conversion for the M and what is the new uprights you are doing??

Also hows the market on cheap M's out there needed TLC at the moment? Or is it better to plan all parts and buy in the winter?

John, cannot see your wheel photo. What size you gone to, can 15" be fitted, low low profile me thinking.
Colin L


Edited by Colin L on Wednesday 18th April 13:54

robgte

46 posts

207 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Colin L said:

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Also hows the market on cheap M's out there needed TLC at the moment? Or is it better to plan all parts and buy in the winter?


Better bank on a min of £2k for a restoration project - prices seem to be on the way up.

Regards
Rob

Colin L

Original Poster:

1,242 posts

268 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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2K for the car, another 5K on the project at my current guess.

Engine 1 to 2K, chassis work about 800, all build work myself, uprights brakes drive shafts diff and modified prop about 2K, paint, interior (well I have the Tuscan seats so that the only cheap part taken care of) wiring exhaust well god knows how much really but then thats part of the fun.

Just need to go find a project.

Colin L