Griffith 200/400 Market price ?

Griffith 200/400 Market price ?

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Fiscracer

585 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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I have this picture of the purple one from 1971 - next to mine with the small air intake through the bonnet



And a better picture of a 'proper' air intake



It was running 10s with a 410 stump puller..........pretty quick for a road car in the early 70s

maddog993

1,220 posts

240 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Another good find!
So (assuming they are one & the same car and one is 1971 and the other 1991), it's surprising it stuck with that same hideous purple paint-job & bonnet graphic for twenty years!


Slow M

2,737 posts

206 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Fiscracer said:
"a 'proper' air intake"
I think that's FIA legal! biglaugh

Fiscracer

585 posts

210 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Slow M said:
Fiscracer said:
"a 'proper' air intake"
I think that's FIA legal! biglaugh
Yeah but someone out there would need cushions......laugh

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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smilesmile I think My bonnet might be a tad lower (not much - but nothing Poking through!).

asteinha

129 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Hello maddog993

"David Gerald Ltd brought the car to the UK in 1990 and completed the initial restoration -(Chris Schirles might have had a hand during this ?)- it was resprayed silver and remained this way until Tim John "


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sorry for my bad english. I know also that David brought a Griffith 200 at 1989/1990 from USA to UK. But this car was sold to a german man in 1990. Do you know which car it was?



Gruß
Toni

maddog993

1,220 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Hi Toni, sorry for the delay in replying (only just noticed there was a new addition to this thread!)- don't think it would be the same car - the first owner, after David Gerald brought it to the UK & restored it, was Michael J Abraham who owned it from 1991 to 1993 (unless he was German?), at which point it was picked up by Tim John. As far as I know it never left the UK after it was brought over from the US.
Rob

spike091

4 posts

158 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Hello all. I've been reading the posts on Griffiths with much interest. I owned 200-091 years ago and sold it to a fellow from the UK; I've since forgotten his name- David I think. I was kept informed of its whereabouts by a fellow American, Joe Rauh, who for a while, had a website dedicated to Griffith. He contacted me after the sale to place my name in the ledger of ownership for a compilation of history he was doing. He sent pictures of 091 "restored" to a racing behemoth with mods everywhere including fender flares, massive rear tires, open induction hood and a 500bhp engine. It was a great looking fire-breather but sad to see her cut like that. In its last incarnation, it was being circuit raced throughout Europe by a wealthy Austrian industrialist (as told by Rauh)in blue with white stripes. Joe has disappeared it seems and I've had no further notion of where this car is. Does anyone here know of the car or who may have her now? I've rued the day I sold that car but am comforted by looking at the original window sticker from Jack Griffith and the original type-set owner's manual. Both may well be rarer than the car. Any thoughts are appreciated.

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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spike091 said:
Hello all. I've been reading the posts on Griffiths with much interest. I owned 200-091 years ago and sold it to a fellow from the UK; I've since forgotten his name- David I think. I was kept informed of its whereabouts by a fellow American, Joe Rauh, who for a while, had a website dedicated to Griffith. He contacted me after the sale to place my name in the ledger of ownership for a compilation of history he was doing. He sent pictures of 091 "restored" to a racing behemoth with mods everywhere including fender flares, massive rear tires, open induction hood and a 500bhp engine. It was a great looking fire-breather but sad to see her cut like that. In its last incarnation, it was being circuit raced throughout Europe by a wealthy Austrian industrialist (as told by Rauh)in blue with white stripes. Joe has disappeared it seems and I've had no further notion of where this car is. Does anyone here know of the car or who may have her now? I've rued the day I sold that car but am comforted by looking at the original window sticker from Jack Griffith and the original type-set owner's manual. Both may well be rarer than the car. Any thoughts are appreciated.
According to the now defunct JR Db 200-5-091 was last owned by a Henrik Lindberg. Can't say I have heard of this one (not heard of it rcaing since I've had mine (5 or so years). There was a well know 200-5-191 that was a top fia car in the 90's and there is a very mildly modded 400-5-191 that races in the UK.

FYI a good fia car like you are say will have about 400-430bhp. But yes Massiveley fast. Sad to see those mods!! Those are the best things that could possibly happen to it (IMHO).

Google and Griffith wink

I think you might have this confused with the 191 fia car (Dark Blue) race alot in Europe in the 90's.

See http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1...


Edited by jellison on Sunday 6th February 19:43

spike091

4 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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200-5-091 was my car. It had a 400 rear clip on it and I have the receipt from the body shop who did the repair in '69. Rauh sent the same pics to me that you have on the link you posted. Lindberg was the fellow's name who Rauh said had the car then. Any sign of it these days?

GTRene

16,543 posts

224 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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nice one.

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Personally I think it is a shame so many 200 get the rear clip(as you put it) from the 400.

FIA jokers only partly to blame.

Slow M

2,737 posts

206 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Tuesday 30th November 2010
jellison said:

Depends what you car a Road version

Mine will be "driven" on the road.

Interesting news just out on the first 3 Griffiths made - more later
Friday 3rd December 2010
jellison said:

Hands are tied More post 31 March 2011.

It might even look like a car again by then (proper engine and box now in ).
Just a reminder! smile
(I'm guessing you've used all three cars in the making of yours. Tsssk, how wasteful.)

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Slow M said:
Just a reminder! smile
(I'm guessing you've used all three cars in the making of yours. Tsssk, how wasteful.)
haha smile
Er no but in contact with the owner of 015 and think I have info of who has 016 somewhere.

As for a Road car - in the UK - if it has a registration plate and doc and passes and MOT safety (yearly) check you can "drive" it on the road. So in theory if you can get past the above you can drive on the road (even if it is a weekend racer smile


Edited by jellison on Thursday 17th February 08:57

spike091

4 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Thought you guys might like this....


jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Bargain - how did that price stack up against other cars at the time, say Mustangs and Ferraris (opposite ends smile).

spike091

4 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Found online a sticker for a '65 Mustang 2+2 with hi-perf 289 (same as the Griffith); msrp $3,728.00. '65 corvette with 327/300hp @ $4,000
Ferrari? $11K and up I would guess. The Griffith was a bargain. I'll post pics of the manual later.

GTRene

16,543 posts

224 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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nice bill, thx for sharing.

maddog993

1,220 posts

240 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Resurrecting this thread to show the pics of 200/6/176 that Joe Rauh recently sent;

In it's original green (with the Cragars- so maybe they were on from scratch after all);



and in it's subsequent 'hot-rod' guise with side-exit exhaust - (as correctly identified in the earlier pics by Oliverb205 and Fiscracer) ;





(I was obviously imagining the 'flame' graphics and the wire wheels, but at least I did remember the De Tomaso Pantera correctly!) smile



Edited by maddog993 on Sunday 24th April 22:50

GTRene

16,543 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I love this wide one, is it still around somewhere?
could not find any pictures with the plate number search, only that it was some sort of race car back in the old days around 1964.

Those pictures are in/from the book from Peter Filby so I mentioned that in the pictures.

where is it and what happened to it, its wide and mean looking and lovely biggrin
I also read in the book that it was crashed during some testrit to a show in 1964 and was a write off, but I also have read that the car was a race car? see here>
http://www.racingsportscars.com/chassis/archive/20...
would love to own such sort wide curved Griff or replica one day when the numbers come up ;-)







Edited by GTRene on Thursday 2nd January 12:10