This doesn't look good.....
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I noticed that you said friends and not neighbours? Does your nearest neighbour live over 10 miles away (10 miles away they will still be able to here it, but are probably unable to pinpoint where the noise is coming from), or if not how many times did the police turn up before you had finished scatter scaling the chassis?
Slow M said:
When working on my chassis, my friends "attacked" it with what they termed a "rattle hammer," a contraption that had about twenty to thirty eighth inch pins that were driven by a pneumatic hammer. They adjusted the power, and went to town all over the frame. Even those tubes that looked good after blasting, but had weakened from the inside, were exposed, cut and replaced.
Nice process. f
king swamp rats taught me something.
B.
Nice process. f
king swamp rats taught me something. B.
magpies said:
Am I correct in stating the 'chassis number' relates to the chassis and changing this could lead to major DVLA issues - maybe even having to go through IVA and re-registering
The only identifying number on My car is on a silver sticker on the bulkhead ( as far I as know ) and the engine number on the block , so no problem with using a more recently made chassis.Cheers
Geoff
eric0 said:
I noticed that you said friends and not neighbours? Does your nearest neighbour live over 10 miles away (10 miles away they will still be able to here it, but are probably unable to pinpoint where the noise is coming from), or if not how many times did the police turn up before you had finished scatter scaling the chassis?
Eric, I lived in Florida, then. Like I mentioned, "swamp rats," they lived on the edge of the Everglades. The police, down there, follow the money, not the trouble.
There were several tubes that looked good from the outside, but were paper thin. Hammer punched through like...through paper.
B.
Interesting thread this.
Op I would get the chassis cleaned down and degreased then shotblasted Only then can you make a fair judgement of its condition and whether or not to repair it or renew it.Ultimately thats your choice.
When I sent my chassis off for shot blasting it came back in a shocking state at least 75% of it was well and truly had it.
As you all may know I have now a new chassis made for my Taimar.It has been crafted using the original jig. I did look into the legal stuff regarding a new chassis here is the link to the page.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...
This what they say on the website
Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts
In order to retain the original registration mark:
•cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.
If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used a car must pass an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) and light goods vans must have a enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.
Whatever you decide good luck and have fun .
Cheers Andy
Op I would get the chassis cleaned down and degreased then shotblasted Only then can you make a fair judgement of its condition and whether or not to repair it or renew it.Ultimately thats your choice.
When I sent my chassis off for shot blasting it came back in a shocking state at least 75% of it was well and truly had it.
As you all may know I have now a new chassis made for my Taimar.It has been crafted using the original jig. I did look into the legal stuff regarding a new chassis here is the link to the page.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...
This what they say on the website
Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts
In order to retain the original registration mark:
•cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.
If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used a car must pass an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) and light goods vans must have a enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.
Whatever you decide good luck and have fun .
Cheers Andy
Hi Andy,
please correct me if I get this wrong but I think the link You put up relates to cars that need to be re-registered because they have been
a)locked up in a barn for 50 years and have dropped off the dvla database.
b)marked as scrapped at some time in the past before being found again.
My Car has only been on sorn for about 12 months so will ( if I get it finished ) only need an MOT to get it back on the road. As Adrian says , there is a number stamped on the chassis rail then my new chassis will have it too. But I will have to find it under the rust first.
I had a cobra replica that only had a sticker on the bodyshell and nothing on the tubular chassis. This was quite acceptable to several MOT stations and even the DVLA inspector who checked the car when I wanted to get the vehicle description changed from a "Jaguar 420" to "Ram SC Cobra", Admittedly they would only change the description to "jaguar RAM SC" !!! even thou the only bits of the supposedly original Jaguar were the front and rear suspension. The car had been built 20 years earlier and he only really wanted to see that it was not a new build.
Anyway as we all know , it's luck of the draw , sometimes You're lucky , sometimes Your not.
Good Luck
Geoff.
please correct me if I get this wrong but I think the link You put up relates to cars that need to be re-registered because they have been
a)locked up in a barn for 50 years and have dropped off the dvla database.
b)marked as scrapped at some time in the past before being found again.
My Car has only been on sorn for about 12 months so will ( if I get it finished ) only need an MOT to get it back on the road. As Adrian says , there is a number stamped on the chassis rail then my new chassis will have it too. But I will have to find it under the rust first.
I had a cobra replica that only had a sticker on the bodyshell and nothing on the tubular chassis. This was quite acceptable to several MOT stations and even the DVLA inspector who checked the car when I wanted to get the vehicle description changed from a "Jaguar 420" to "Ram SC Cobra", Admittedly they would only change the description to "jaguar RAM SC" !!! even thou the only bits of the supposedly original Jaguar were the front and rear suspension. The car had been built 20 years earlier and he only really wanted to see that it was not a new build.
Anyway as we all know , it's luck of the draw , sometimes You're lucky , sometimes Your not.
Good Luck
Geoff.
Hi Moto. I'm getting on reasonbly well and I am lucky in that I work from home so I can get down into my garage most days for an hour or two. I'm at the age when if i watch telly in the evening I just fall asleep so better to pop out into the garage! At weekends I probably manage another 8 hours or so. As for progress on the Vixen, I'm on course but I know all the difficult stuff is still to come. My target is to finish the car in time to take it to Goodwood Revival in 2012. I live in hope!
Andy
Likewise, it does help when you work from home to get those extra few hours in at the end of the day. I'm sitting here waiting for the windscreen man to arrive and refit front and back screens as the re-trim project (seats, carpet, dash & top, roof lining, panels etc etc) is now completed. Not too shabby considering I've never attempted anything trim-wise before. But then it wasn't as difficult as I thought it may be. Even the roof-lining was easyish. I was going to put the glass back in myself but listening to bad news stories of others, I thought quit while I'm ahead - I got them out without breaking them.
I have to thank Adrian for giving me the confidence to give it a go, Steve for supplying me with 2 original seat shells to recover and Monkeythree for the tip on using bulldog clips for the roof lining.... brilliant.
Next job is to replace a worn p/s window winder mechanism, so may as well replace the rubber window seals at the same time.
Moto
Likewise, it does help when you work from home to get those extra few hours in at the end of the day. I'm sitting here waiting for the windscreen man to arrive and refit front and back screens as the re-trim project (seats, carpet, dash & top, roof lining, panels etc etc) is now completed. Not too shabby considering I've never attempted anything trim-wise before. But then it wasn't as difficult as I thought it may be. Even the roof-lining was easyish. I was going to put the glass back in myself but listening to bad news stories of others, I thought quit while I'm ahead - I got them out without breaking them.
I have to thank Adrian for giving me the confidence to give it a go, Steve for supplying me with 2 original seat shells to recover and Monkeythree for the tip on using bulldog clips for the roof lining.... brilliant.
Next job is to replace a worn p/s window winder mechanism, so may as well replace the rubber window seals at the same time.
Moto
get a new chassis...everything else would be a dodgy repair....when you make your decisiion in restoring such cars you MUST consider to invest 1500 to 2000pound in a good basics (aka new Chassis)...everything else would be a dodgy start from the beginning...and if you dont have the founds for a new chassis i would not even start a full body-off restoration.
powder coating:
the company who did the coating which started flaking already 2 years later has no clue how nowadays a powder coating process is made. powdercoating is not applied directly on the bare metal surface. that has been done in the past and therefore most of the 90ies chassis´ the coating started flaking after a view years or even earlier. if the company is still working like that its a direct walk-away!!!!
today the powder is applicated after a mechanical cleaning process (typical blasting), followed by chemical cleaning, than a conversion layer (typical for ferro-metal surfaces is zinc-phosphating) and finally the powdercoating.
if one of these steps is missing, especially the phosphating, the powder coat will not last and its a straight walk-away from that company
powder coating:
the company who did the coating which started flaking already 2 years later has no clue how nowadays a powder coating process is made. powdercoating is not applied directly on the bare metal surface. that has been done in the past and therefore most of the 90ies chassis´ the coating started flaking after a view years or even earlier. if the company is still working like that its a direct walk-away!!!!
today the powder is applicated after a mechanical cleaning process (typical blasting), followed by chemical cleaning, than a conversion layer (typical for ferro-metal surfaces is zinc-phosphating) and finally the powdercoating.
if one of these steps is missing, especially the phosphating, the powder coat will not last and its a straight walk-away from that company
Just to resurrect an old thread, took delivery of this new beauty today. Perfectly made by Mr Chassisman and now off for powder coating (including blast clean, primers, and gloss top coat of powder).
The old chassis has been cut-up as it was pure scrap so happy for the old chassis number to be transferred to the new one.
Some things in life are worth waiting for
Paul
The old chassis has been cut-up as it was pure scrap so happy for the old chassis number to be transferred to the new one.
Some things in life are worth waiting for
Paul
The Surveyor said:
Just to resurrect an old thread, took delivery of this new beauty today. Perfectly made by Mr Chassisman and now off for powder coating (including blast clean, primers, and gloss top coat of powder).
The old chassis has been cut-up as it was pure scrap so happy for the old chassis number to be transferred to the new one.
Some things in life are worth waiting for
Paul
Very nice! Congratulations. The old chassis has been cut-up as it was pure scrap so happy for the old chassis number to be transferred to the new one.
Some things in life are worth waiting for
Paul
Best,
B.
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